Bad Beat Blackjack: have you seen it?
In your casino travels, have you seen a DigiDeal Classic Blackjack or Digital 21 table in the market with the Bad Beat side bet? If so, where (and how many)?
I've read one report here about it being in Indy Live. Anywhere else?
Thanks for your help.
If so, you would have to rely on Digideals numbers, if they exist, would you not ?
Basing those questions on the following :
There are four popular bonus side bets for the casino to choose from: High Tie Blackjack® Bonus and Upcard Luck 21™ Bonus, which are paid on the first two cards or “hole” cards; and the Bad Beat Blackjack® Bonus and Buster Blackjack™ Bonus, which are paid on the final hand outcome or “end game.” Now the operator can decide what type of bonus side bet and how many to offer its patrons: two, one or none at all. Multiple pay charts are available for each side bet. Maximum of two side bets in play at one time (one hole card and one end game).
Just asking...
Quote: buzzpaffI am losing my faith in those who view this post. No one has ever seen this game? I think not!
Okay, buzz, to make you happy...
I was the one who posted that I saw it at Indiana Live! It's the only place I have ever seen it. I've seen a lot of bonus bets, and that's the only place I've seen Bad Beat.
There are two racinos in the Indianapolis area - Indiana Grand (formerly Indiana Live!) in Shelbyville and Hoosier Park in Anderson. Both have the DigiDeal tables, and up until a couple of months ago, both had the Bad Beat side bet.
Indiana Grand recenly dropped the Bad Beat, and the dealers/table attendants have told me it was because the casino lost the rights to the software. As of two weeks ago, the Bad Beat was still on the tables at Hoosier Park.
Quote: MathExtremistI have a distribution deal with DigiDeal for my game, Bad Beat Blackjack, on their electronic blackjack tables called "Classic Blackjack". I'm getting conflicting information about market penetration, however, so I wanted to crowdsource the answer and ask for your help:
In your casino travels, have you seen a DigiDeal Classic Blackjack or Digital 21 table in the market with the Bad Beat side bet? If so, where (and how many)?
I've read one report here about it being in Indy Live. Anywhere else?
Thanks for your help.
I've not seen it.
Quote: ProfessorApeSorry to dredge up an old thread, but I do have some input in case anyone is still curious.
There are two racinos in the Indianapolis area - Indiana Grand (formerly Indiana Live!) in Shelbyville and Hoosier Park in Anderson. Both have the DigiDeal tables, and up until a couple of months ago, both had the Bad Beat side bet.
Indiana Grand recenly dropped the Bad Beat, and the dealers/table attendants have told me it was because the casino lost the rights to the software. As of two weeks ago, the Bad Beat was still on the tables at Hoosier Park.
I am always curious. Thanks very much for the report!
What is your sense of whether the dealers at the Indiana Grand were upset that the casino lost the rights to the software? Did they still want to offer the game? (Because I can make that happen...)
Quote: IbeatyouracesIf its the side bet where your 20 gets beat by a many card dealer 21, it is found at Firekeepers near Battle Creek, MI.
That's one version done as a progressive by DEQ using their G3 bet technology. Thanks for the info!
I think it's return would be much appreciated.
Quote: ProfessorApeFrom what I've seen, the dealers desperately want the bad beat back. All day long they hear players (like me) bemoan what they would have won under the old bet. I'm out there once a week, and every time it becomes a topic of conversation.
I think it's return would be much appreciated.
There's no chance you've mixed up Hoosier Park and Indiana Grand, is there? The data I have says Indiana Grand still has six tables but Hoosier Park took out six tables at the end of March. Is that not the case?
Either way, you should ask the crew whether the bet is still actually available from the config menu. Unless the game's software has been updated recently, there's just a switch in an admin menu to toggle on/off the Bad Beat wager. Because the dealers' theory about "losing rights to the software" isn't correct. The e-table vendor still has rights to distribute the side bet, so there's no reason the casino can't offer it if they want to.
I was supicious that the story about losing rights to the software was a cover. I think the Bad Beat wasn't pulling in enough money - as evidenced by the fact that the players liked it so much. Next time I'm out there I'll ask whether it's still on the menu - right about the same time I suggest they turn down the "cheat" dial.
Quote: ProfessorApeI'm positive regarding Hoosier Park and Indiana Grand. Indiana Grand replaced the Bad Beat with the Blackjack Buster bet over the summer. I was there just last Friday, and the two side bets were the "High Tie" and "Blackjack Buster" (both of which I hit for good money on the same day). The last time I was at Hoosier Park was two weeks ago, and they still had the Bad Beat, along with the High Tie.
I was supicious that the story about losing rights to the software was a cover. I think the Bad Beat wasn't pulling in enough money - as evidenced by the fact that the players liked it so much. Next time I'm out there I'll ask whether it's still on the menu - right about the same time I suggest they turn down the "cheat" dial.
Thanks, I appreciate it. And please let them know that if they have any questions on the bet, you know the inventor. :)
Seriously though, if the vendor's sales people aren't helpful enough, I can answer any questions they have. I'm pretty sure the game software has multiple paytables to choose from so the casino can set their house edge as desired.
Quote: MathExtremistThanks, I appreciate it. And please let them know that if they have any questions on the bet, you know the inventor. :)
Wow, this is one of those days I'm sooooo glad Al Gore invented the internet.
I'll report back anything of interest.
Other lurkers, see what good things can happen when you jump in. Don't worry about the new administrator. I got him in my pocket !
