Sandybestdog
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June 17th, 2017 at 7:38:33 PM permalink
Where it gets really awkward is when the dealer mispays you and then a few seconds later when scooping the cards up you can tell that they realized they made a mistake. Most mispays in my experience happen at ultimate texas hold'em. It usually involves the dealer paying the ante when they don't qualify or missing that they have a straight or flush. It happened the other day to me. Frankly I missed that the dealer had a flush as well. I always leave the chips up there for several seconds after a misspay so as to play dumb. If they realized they mispayed, most scoop the cards quickly and hope nobody catches it rather than call the floor over and admit they made a mistake.

I have no problem taking a mispay. I feel it's a game we're playing and that's part of it. When asked to pay it back I will, although this has never happened to me except when it was immediately realized. I will however never take a mispay when it involves buying or cashing chips. That's an even exchange of goods and is akin to an overpayment and not a mispay.
gamerfreak
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June 17th, 2017 at 9:39:51 PM permalink
Quote: ECoaster

What about telling a fellow player that they were underpaid?

Years ago I was playing 3CP and a woman next to me had a nice hit (maybe straight flush) and the dealer paid the pair plus bet but left out the ante bonus part. I calmly mentioned to her that it wasn't right, but the dealer said it was and she didn't argue. I just figured oh well. She was playing multiple greens on each hand so there was a decent amount involved.


Dealers often forget to pay the Ante bonus if the player loses the Ante bet. I always point it out of it happens at the table...
Romes
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June 19th, 2017 at 7:18:39 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I stopped telling people because It just leads to problems. Last time it went down like this. Me, "Hey, be careful I can see your hand." Opponent, " WELL STOP LOOKING THEN!!"

Sure, I can do my best not to see their cards, but even then, you can't always avoid or control what your eyes see.
And now I have to not ever look at the guy's chips or actions he is making just to make sure I don't see his hand.
Why do I get penalized for him being an idiot?

I was on a cruise about 6 years back. On cruises "usually" they have the electronic poker table where each player gets a screen and you have to tap the screen and cover the bottom of it and it'll show you your cards. Then you can click bet/raise/fold and amounts on the screen and it goes around the table like normal. Anyways there was this REALLY drunk guy next to me at the table and he was berating the table as I was just sitting down making fun of everyone and telling everyone how good he was. Well, on the first hand I noticed he didn't block his hole cards from my position... It took me about 45 minutes to clean out his $1500 at the 1/2 game we were playing. He raised nearly every pot, so I'd call every single time and just shove on him when he had nothing and call his big bets down / raise on the river when I had him beat. He was furious that I "had his number" and I didn't feel an ounce of bad about it... still don't.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
AxelWolf
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June 19th, 2017 at 7:46:23 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

I was on a cruise about 6 years back. On cruises "usually" they have the electronic poker table where each player gets a screen and you have to tap the screen and cover the bottom of it and it'll show you your cards. Then you can click bet/raise/fold and amounts on the screen and it goes around the table like normal. Anyways there was this REALLY drunk guy next to me at the table and he was berating the table as I was just sitting down making fun of everyone and telling everyone how good he was. Well, on the first hand I noticed he didn't block his hole cards from my position... It took me about 45 minutes to clean out his $1500 at the 1/2 game we were playing. He raised nearly every pot, so I'd call every single time and just shove on him when he had nothing and call his big bets down / raise on the river when I had him beat. He was furious that I "had his number" and I didn't feel an ounce of bad about it... still don't.

I don't think any less of you for this.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Romes
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June 19th, 2017 at 7:51:27 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I don't think any less of you for this.

Less? I thought you'd be proud of me =).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Ibeatyouraces
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June 19th, 2017 at 7:54:21 AM permalink
I've got no problem victimizing sloppy poker players. The whole point of live poker is to exploit your opponents weaknesses. F etiquette!
"And that's the bottom lineeeee, cuz Stone Cold said so!"
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June 19th, 2017 at 9:40:07 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The whole point of live poker is to exploit your opponents weaknesses. F etiquette!

But not the casino's weaknesses or for the casino to exploit your weaknesses.

I was once at a carival game and announced to a companion I've won instead of making a required additional bet. The dealer took a chip from my stack, made the now tardy additional bet, then paid that bet for the camera. He got a tip! He had heard my comment and knew I didn't understand the rules.
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June 19th, 2017 at 9:49:16 AM permalink
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I actually dealt poker for a few years in town. I dealt the WSOP 7 years. My friend who taught me how to deal used to F the house as much as possible. I've dealt for 8 hours solid without taking any rake... because F them! At times I would only take a dollar just so the camera would have something to see. I never had one floor person tell either of us about it. Security never once ever came down. No player ever said a word. You would think some sharp player would notice and tip more... nope. I've actually dealt games getting stiffed left and right and still wouldn't take a rake or at most 1 dollar. If I got in and the rack was down any amount I just made it up from the rake. So many smart ethical poker players but not one time in all my experience dealing did I have one player mention or even give a wink or smile. Not one of these honest players said... uhh you forgot the rake. Another friend of mine dealt some time games and was taking 25 dollars a hand... not one player noticed but he told the floor and they gave them 5 hrs free. My point is... ahhhh I forgot my point but the stories are true. On another note when I ran tournaments I stole over 100 dollars in re buys every day for months with no trouble ever... anyways... stealing is just part of the business.



No one has commented on this post by monet. I have bolded his text about stealing money from player's rebuys.

To all the sanctimonious airbags on this site who keep saying that the casino never cheats the players: please never say that again.
AxelWolf
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June 19th, 2017 at 10:21:41 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Less? I thought you'd be proud of me =).

It would be impossible for me to think any less of you (-;

Less is more.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
monet0412
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June 19th, 2017 at 10:29:23 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888



No one has commented on this post by monet. I have bolded his text about stealing money from player's rebuys.

To all the sanctimonious airbags on this site who keep saying that the casino never cheats the players: please never say that again.



This isn't Casino cheating... it is Employee Theft which runs rampant all the time. Usually it is either the Employees stealing from Casinos or in Poker it is Employees stealing from the Players and the Casino. Either way if you play poker someone is stealing from you... either by the Casino from raking you over the coals, Employees Stealing from you or the Players teaming up against you.
Last edited by: monet0412 on Jun 19, 2017

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