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billryan
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May 10th, 2017 at 2:50:32 PM permalink
House On The Rock. They put something in the water.
Can't wait until The Rock is featured on American Gods.
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May 10th, 2017 at 3:00:38 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I will give 4 to 1 that he isn't in Vegas this weekend as he had said he would.

Shit, competition is finally here.
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May 10th, 2017 at 3:26:00 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Hold up, people voluntarily go to Wisconsim more than once? Amazing.


I spent a week in Wisconsin one night.
What we've got here is failure to communicate
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May 10th, 2017 at 4:44:42 PM permalink
this is great. thanks for sharing...
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May 10th, 2017 at 5:18:07 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG



I wish more people would post their stores of traveling cross country and not getting pulled over. This thread has made me overly paranoid and that my bankroll has a 99% chance of being stolen by cops before I get to Vegas



The only trouble I had with cops during my months-long cross country jaunt happened at Hoover Dam.

I was following a couple of "long hairs" I'd met at Grand Canyon Village, en route to see Las Vegas for the first time.

We stopped and parked on the road over the dam, took the tour, then cooked our dinner (Dinty Moore stew) in the back of their van, using Sterno.

After dinner we used our jugged water to clean the cook pot and our plates, and the greasy water ran off into the gutter.

That's when the Dam Cop showed up; he didn't like it one bit.

Said he'd arrest us if we didn't take the shirts off our backs and mop up our soiled water in the roadside gutter.

When we finished he warned us never to come back.

What a douche.
"What, me worry?"
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May 10th, 2017 at 5:34:27 PM permalink
Having a female dog that's in heat in the car will defeat any drug sniffing dog.

Helpful hint #6H.
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May 10th, 2017 at 6:03:21 PM permalink
My 2 cents:

(1) If traveling by car with a lot of money. Hide it in about 5-10 different places in the car.

(2) With a bankroll over $2K, I would never have all of it in the same place (Think - car accident & fire).
If you get over $100K, I would never have more than 1/3 in one bank/location. Multiple banks, stock accounts, safe deposit boxes, etc...

(3) Open a bank account. DO NOT put more than $5K cash in it...unless you put cash in slowly.
Don't do a lot of cash deposits & withdrawals. That got one of my bank accounts (and credit cards) closed (and happened to a friend also).

(4) Once in Vegas, open a bank safe deposit box. Sometimes with enough money in an account, the safe deposit box is free (Mine at Chase is free with $15K.)
Of course the 15K could be earning 1-1.5% annual interest at GoldMan Sachs or in a CD (or 10-15%/yr in the stock market).

(5) Romes has good chip buying suggestions. When first buying in, go to roulette or baccarat or some ploppy game, get chips there. Come back a later trip to play BJ. Maybe even take a few trips to buy up chips. Bacarrat is nice because people often buy chips & then just watch the game for 15-30 min waiting for the right time to play ... and move between crowded baccarat tables. People at baccarat often buy in for more money too.

I like to stick to blacks (some smaller casinos - only greens, IMO 2x200 is too strong for El Cortez & Four Queens). I saw one guy attempt to play 3x75 on his first hand at the El Cortez, and the pit boss came running over like bat out of hell, pushed all the chips out of the betting circles, and said "you can't play here" (wasn't a known player, pretty stupid for an AP also, if he was one, argued with the pit boss a lot).

No purples or yellows (god forbid, browns or larger), so I like to avoid color-ups. I often say that "I'm going to play at another table." if they try to color-me up. Sometimes they refuse to let me leave the table...so I just color-up, and break-down at another table. However, I don't do $20K buy-ins, where walking with yellows and purples makes more sense.

(6) Leave a reserve "bankroll" which you don't touch (say $10K) in a interest-earning (at least 1%) savings account. Better yet, after you figure out expenses, save a 6-month to 12-month worst-case scenario in the "never gamble, like ever, ever, ever bankroll"

(7) In Budgets, add a 10% unexpected expenses category.

(8) If you ever plan to play high-stakes slots, DO NOT get a players card. When you get a players card, you want to look like you drop $10K-100K/day. Helps you get $5K-15K/month FP.

(9) Casinos may Google you. Make a convincing cover story on Social Media (aka Cook just moved to Vegas)...and DON'T blab about this on WoV. Invisible does not look good. Probably you want to look like a normal person with a job, or a rich kid (who can afford to play $20K/day).

See how rich kids dress (e.g. they often don't tuck in their shirts). Watch the kids with the $20K-200K watches, see how they dress, and how they act.
Not like card counter nerds who grew up working class.

(10) I like Laundromat just east of Harrah's (forget the name, maybe 0.5 mile east).

(11) Weeklies definitely have fees. Two I hear about last year were $185-200, about $200-$230 after fees.
Never did run into the spa attendant who told me about the $200-400-600/month studios last year. Sorry. He works at the Bally's Spa (Free for Diamonds), but in my last few visits I never saw him (didn't write his name down or get contact info). In his 20s. Clean-cut caucasian. He lives at a $400/month studio in the mid-range neighborhoods ($200 was N Las Vegas rough neighborhoods, $600 was in better places).

-----
Disaster strikes:

There are ways to survive on less than $100 bankroll.

(1) Food - the Harrahs Diamond lounges (have different hours and better/worse food - see other threads). I usually tip at least a dollar, depending on service.

(2) Food - Six High-end lounges open 24 hrs (if you have proper high-level card, or **ahem** use other methods). Bellagio, Caesars Palace, Venetian, MGM Grand (if still open), Wynn (if still open), Cosmopolitan (heard about it, but haven't checked it out yet). Mirage is now closed. Caesars Palace cut back the food service to really lame stuff.

In the beginning, maybe have a friend take you in as a guest. Learn how people behave there. Tip waiters well & get to know them.

Many ages ago, I had a "big player" friend take me into one area. He said don't worry about not having a card. If they don't know who you are, they don't know how BIG a player you could be, so they won't tend to bother you if you know how to act.

(3) Making money - Lots of low-roller strategies (in & out of casinos). Which you don't need to learn with $61K bankroll.

(4) You are welcome to PM me if you get in trouble. I don't live in Vegas anymore, but visit there a few times a year.
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May 10th, 2017 at 6:20:32 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

You know, I'm starting to get sick of all the sarcastic comments.

OK, perfectly understandable.

Quote: ZenKinG

I'm not a huge fan of banks and rather have cash on hand to play although I do use both and deposit and withdraw from time to time.

I'm not a huge fan of banks either. Fees, crappy customer service, etc. BUT, when they offer you a service that you need, and it is free, USE IT. I am simply talking about having a bank account in PODUNK and withdrawing money at a branch in VEGAS.

Good luck to ya. It will be quite an adventure, and best not to have regrets on I coulda/shoulda later in life, right ?
I remember the thirty-five sweet goodbyes; When you put me on the Wolverine up to Annandale; It was still September When your daddy was quite surprised; To find you with the working girls in the county jail; I was smoking with the boys upstairs when I Heard about the whole affair;I said oh no William and Mary won't do
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May 12th, 2017 at 1:50:25 PM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

I'll take that for $100. How to prove he made it on time though?

Edit: Start packing ZK!



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$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
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May 12th, 2017 at 3:21:50 PM permalink
Quote: mamat

My 2 cents:

(1) If traveling by car with a lot of money. Hide it in about 5-10 different places in the car.

(2) With a bankroll over $2K, I would never have all of it in the same place (Think - car accident & fire).
If you get over $100K, I would never have more than 1/3 in one bank/location. Multiple banks, stock accounts, safe deposit boxes, etc...

(3) Open a bank account. DO NOT put more than $5K cash in it...unless you put cash in slowly.
Don't do a lot of cash deposits & withdrawals. That got one of my bank accounts (and credit cards) closed (and happened to a friend also).



(4) Once in Vegas, open a bank safe deposit box. Sometimes with enough money in an account, the safe deposit box is free (Mine at Chase is free with $15K.)
Of course the 15K could be earning 1-1.5% annual interest at GoldMan Sachs or in a CD (or 10-15%/yr in the stock market).

(5) Romes has good chip buying suggestions. When first buying in, go to roulette or baccarat or some ploppy game, get chips there. Come back a later trip to play BJ. Maybe even take a few trips to buy up chips. Bacarrat is nice because people often buy chips & then just watch the game for 15-30 min waiting for the right time to play ... and move between crowded baccarat tables. People at baccarat often buy in for more money too.

I like to stick to blacks (some smaller casinos - only greens, IMO 2x200 is too strong for El Cortez & Four Queens). I saw one guy attempt to play 3x75 on his first hand at the El Cortez, and the pit boss came running over like bat out of hell, pushed all the chips out of the betting circles, and said "you can't play here" (wasn't a known player, pretty stupid for an AP also, if he was one, argued with the pit boss a lot).

No purples or yellows (god forbid, browns or larger), so I like to avoid color-ups. I often say that "I'm going to play at another table." if they try to color-me up. Sometimes they refuse to let me leave the table...so I just color-up, and break-down at another table. However, I don't do $20K buy-ins, where walking with yellows and purples makes more sense.

(6) Leave a reserve "bankroll" which you don't touch (say $10K) in a interest-earning (at least 1%) savings account. Better yet, after you figure out expenses, save a 6-month to 12-month worst-case scenario in the "never gamble, like ever, ever, ever bankroll"

(7) In Budgets, add a 10% unexpected expenses category.

(8) If you ever plan to play high-stakes slots, DO NOT get a players card. When you get a players card, you want to look like you drop $10K-100K/day. Helps you get $5K-15K/month FP.

(9) Casinos may Google you. Make a convincing cover story on Social Media (aka Cook just moved to Vegas)...and DON'T blab about this on WoV. Invisible does not look good. Probably you want to look like a normal person with a job, or a rich kid (who can afford to play $20K/day).

See how rich kids dress (e.g. they often don't tuck in their shirts). Watch the kids with the $20K-200K watches, see how they dress, and how they act.
Not like card counter nerds who grew up working class.

(10) I like Laundromat just east of Harrah's (forget the name, maybe 0.5 mile east).

(11) Weeklies definitely have fees. Two I hear about last year were $185-200, about $200-$230 after fees.
Never did run into the spa attendant who told me about the $200-400-600/month studios last year. Sorry. He works at the Bally's Spa (Free for Diamonds), but in my last few visits I never saw him (didn't write his name down or get contact info). In his 20s. Clean-cut caucasian. He lives at a $400/month studio in the mid-range neighborhoods ($200 was N Las Vegas rough neighborhoods, $600 was in better places).

-----
Disaster strikes:

There are ways to survive on less than $100 bankroll.

(1) Food - the Harrahs Diamond lounges (have different hours and better/worse food - see other threads). I usually tip at least a dollar, depending on service.

(2) Food - Six High-end lounges open 24 hrs (if you have proper high-level card, or **ahem** use other methods). Bellagio, Caesars Palace, Venetian, MGM Grand (if still open), Wynn (if still open), Cosmopolitan (heard about it, but haven't checked it out yet). Mirage is now closed. Caesars Palace cut back the food service to really lame stuff.

In the beginning, maybe have a friend take you in as a guest. Learn how people behave there. Tip waiters well & get to know them.

Many ages ago, I had a "big player" friend take me into one area. He said don't worry about not having a card. If they don't know who you are, they don't know how BIG a player you could be, so they won't tend to bother you if you know how to act.

(3) Making money - Lots of low-roller strategies (in & out of casinos). Which you don't need to learn with $61K bankroll.

(4) You are welcome to PM me if you get in trouble. I don't live in Vegas anymore, but visit there a few times a year.



This post should be printed out and framed by anyone learning AP (which is why i quoted it). Very generous of you to give such useful advice, mamat!
"If the house lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game."

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