SixdashNine
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April 19th, 2017 at 2:52:08 PM permalink
Hi, new member. Just had one question. Don't plan on stickin around.

I've been playing this $5 8-deck game with good rules. I can't bet much because it's a low ball game, and it's dicey anyway because it's 8-decks. They don't have quarters, so they round up on blackjacks. If I bet $7.50 instead of $5 when I'm at a disadvantage, does that actually decrease the house edge? If so, is it substantial? I'm calculating this would decrease the house edge in neutral and negative counts by nearly half. Is that right? How do I get away with betting a pink on half my hands, when I sometimes throw out a black--is it worth it? Thanks.
RS
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April 19th, 2017 at 3:02:13 PM permalink
At 100 rounds per hour, you expect about 5 blackjacks per hour. If you always bet $7.50, you'd be making winning an extra $1.25 on top of your expected loss. So at most you're saving $1.25/hour. Given that BJs happen more often in + counts than - counts, and you won't always be betting that wonky amount, this's likely save you less than 50c an hour. Or if anything, cost you money, due to decreased game play speed (rounds per hour).
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GWAE
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April 19th, 2017 at 4:37:42 PM permalink
Quote: RS

At 100 rounds per hour, you expect about 5 blackjacks per hour. If you always bet $7.50, you'd be making winning an extra $1.25 on top of your expected loss. So at most you're saving $1.25/hour. Given that BJs happen more often in + counts than - counts, and you won't always be betting that wonky amount, this's likely save you less than 50c an hour. Or if anything, cost you money, due to decreased game play speed (rounds per hour).



I think he would be winnng $11.25 rounded to 12 so .75×5 for 3.75 extra per hour.
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April 19th, 2017 at 4:42:13 PM permalink
If they have pink chips AND round up AND don't have quarters, then they'd round $11.25 payout up to $11.50, which would be 1 Red, 1 Pink, and 4 Whites ($1's).

I mean, unless they're rounding up to full dollar amounts...but in that case, having pinks wouldn't make sense.
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GWAE
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April 19th, 2017 at 4:51:22 PM permalink
Quote: RS

If they have pink chips AND round up AND don't have quarters, then they'd round $11.25 payout up to $11.50, which would be 1 Red, 1 Pink, and 4 Whites ($1's).

I mean, unless they're rounding up to full dollar amounts...but in that case, having pinks wouldn't make sense.



Oh yeah that makes sense. Not sure why I didn't think of that. Damn maths
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April 19th, 2017 at 5:48:31 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Oh yeah that makes sense. Not sure why I didn't think of that. Damn maths



Eh, it's more like common sense than it is math. But sure. :-)
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onenickelmiracle
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April 19th, 2017 at 6:21:10 PM permalink
Are the pink chips only playable at black jack everywhere? I tried using them at craps and wasn't allowed.
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April 19th, 2017 at 6:23:02 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Are the pink chips only playable at black jack everywhere? I tried using them at craps and wasn't allowed.


Usually only on tables that have them. Blackjack, baccarat, PGP, etc.
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Deucekies
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April 19th, 2017 at 10:35:22 PM permalink
You would think in a jurisdiction where improper bets have to be rounded up, the casino would either A) only allow bets in $1 increments, or B) keep quarters in the tray.
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onenickelmiracle
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April 19th, 2017 at 11:00:54 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

You would think in a jurisdiction where improper bets have to be rounded up, the casino would either A) only allow bets in $1 increments, or B) keep quarters in the tray.

Casinos get fined for quarters in the tray in some jurisdictions, surely Ohio I remember, former Horseshoe Cleveland.
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