ZenKinG
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March 20th, 2017 at 7:40:49 PM permalink
Now i heard this isn't really the career killer that many people think, but im pretty mad that im actually in it.

How bad is this going to affect me in vegas now? Im aware Vegas is very active with OSN. I feel like my vegas career is already cut short by about 50%. It looks like the photo was taken from the same place that kicked me out 7 times now. Surprised i havent been trespassed yet. Looks like i been playing in an active OSN store, just my luck huh? F my life

Well at least i now know which hoodie to not wear anymore. This sucks.
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Zcore13
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March 20th, 2017 at 7:52:02 PM permalink
That almost brought a tear to my eye. You choose to play in a cat and mouse game. You're the mouse. If you come out to try and get some cheese, you have to deal with the consequences.


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RS
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March 20th, 2017 at 8:35:43 PM permalink
Lots of people are in OSN. I'm not, at least not by name. I'm not searching all the pics for mine if it's even in there (which I doubt I'm in).

But what's your point?
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mcallister3200
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March 20th, 2017 at 8:57:20 PM permalink
Honestly for a card counter its not a big deal because what you are doing is so obvious anyway (assuming you play aggressively enough to gain a reasonable edge) they don't really need the database to figure it out. It can be more damaging if you're doing something that they can't figure out but they end up finding your pic or can filter your name.
billryan
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March 20th, 2017 at 9:13:00 PM permalink
How does one find out these things? Is there public access to the database?
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Hunterhill
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March 20th, 2017 at 9:28:46 PM permalink
You just have to file a freedom of information request with the casino😃
Seriously though, people know people who know people etc..
What we've got here is failure to communicate
Romes
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March 21st, 2017 at 6:57:28 AM permalink
A lot of people are in OSN, as RS said. Not only that if you're playing $25 tables ($25-$400 or so) and hopping places as soon as you show a max bet, rotating stores, rotating shift, etc, etc, then you should be fine. Vegas is the land of QUANTITY not quality. Hit and run works best out there, imo, which you don't particularly need a card for.

Next, you're surprised? This is something that seems to come up from the boys over at bjinfo.com... "omg you're losing so much EV by NOT back counting and wonging in and using a higher level count and ...." Yeah, well guess what in my 10 year BJ career I've been given the hard boot only a handful of times. Looks like I'm doing something right, even though I don't have my high level count and I don't hardcore wong in at TC +2 and hardcore wong out at TC 0.

You're attempting to suck up every drop of EV, which isn't bad, that's just your personal choice... and the consequences with that personal choice is often times more heat. It shouldn't be surprising that ONE of the MANY casinos you've played in uses OSN or any other surveillance network.

You're really begging for them to take your picture when you've been booted from there 7 times too. "What do you mean you put me in OSN after you kicked me out 7 times??? I thought 10 times was the minimum for OSN???"

Has ZERO to do with luck and 100% to do with your choices. This is in no way a showstopper to your career, so instead of complaining about "your life, your luck" you can learn from the experience and tailor your game to your more specific needs (re: EV vs longevity).
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Ibeatyouraces
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March 21st, 2017 at 7:33:38 AM permalink
Get a disguise.
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tongni
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March 21st, 2017 at 8:46:17 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Now i heard this isn't really the career killer that many people think, but im pretty mad that im actually in it.

How bad is this going to affect me in vegas now? Im aware Vegas is very active with OSN. I feel like my vegas career is already cut short by about 50%. It looks like the photo was taken from the same place that kicked me out 7 times now. Surprised i havent been trespassed yet. Looks like i been playing in an active OSN store, just my luck huh? F my life

Well at least i now know which hoodie to not wear anymore. This sucks.



I think that's basically it. They look up every unrated player with sophisticated facial recognition. The second you raise your bet and the phone starts ringing, it's probably surveillance alerting the pit. I'd probably go back to the place you got thrown out of 7 times already and demand to speak to the manager and ask him to remove you.
darkoz
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March 21st, 2017 at 12:30:09 PM permalink
Quote: tongni

I think that's basically it. They look up every unrated player with sophisticated facial recognition. The second you raise your bet and the phone starts ringing, it's probably surveillance alerting the pit. I'd probably go back to the place you got thrown out of 7 times already and demand to speak to the manager and ask him to remove you.



What would be the purpose of that? Doubtful the casino will listen. GM: oh yeah we accidentally booted u 7 times. Our mistake. We will take u out of OSN right away. Yeah fat chance

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