NJ to Vegas car route
January 12th, 2017 at 5:09:29 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterThat's a solution for him but it doesn't address the outrageousness of the Government doing this no matter what words they can provide for justification. I guess the vast majority of people nowadays pretty much accept the fact that the Government can beat them down anytime they want to and there's not much they can do about it other than accept it in a submissive manner.
Paigow Dan says if you drive with a lot of cash you deserve to get it stolen in some other nonsense thread here
January 12th, 2017 at 5:12:29 PM
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Civil forfeiture without a conviction is illegal in New Mexico, Minnesota, and now Ohio. There might be a couple more states that give a shit about their citizens rights idk. Mississippi is looking into their civil forfeiture laws, but so that the state can get a piece of it instead of local police.....tunica county sheriff is all against it because officers "put their lives on the line" to steal that money.
January 12th, 2017 at 5:16:07 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterIf this is happening fairly often as posters are indicating this is outrageous. ... Maybe the sweet song of America is just a pipe dream.
Ummm, you're getting warmer.
There are quite a few WoV threads addressing potential risks when traveling with cash. Several occurred soon after I joined WoV, and that caused me to go looking for more. You'll find them if you search, and they paint a very unfortunate story of modern law enforcement in America today.
Here's a really, REALLY good, but also a really long (14-page), thread to get you started:
Lucky's Recommendation
If I recall correctly, somewhere in this thread someone links to the 2016 DOJ Asset Forfeiture Manual used by federal agents. (It's so very special when you can see the playbook of the opposition!)
Most folks think they're safe with less than $10K cash. The manual sez agents can seize amounts of $5K. Furthermore, if the feds are working with a local law enforcement agency that uses a lower threshold (and the feds usually are because they create multi-jurisdictional task forces), the feds can use the lower local $$ amount.
And, yes, it increasingly appears (to me) we are all livng on the other side of Alice's Looking Glass, where the Red Queen can do 3 impossible things before breakfast.
Sad. So sad, don'cher know?
January 12th, 2017 at 5:23:15 PM
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Quote: RSSounds like you got it all figured out, ZKG, even figuring out how to stuff $50k in your shoes...
Meh. Piece of cake;
January 12th, 2017 at 10:54:50 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistHe wants to drive across the country in a RWD sports car in the middle of winter with a bunch of cash. Of all the ways to get to Vegas with a bunch of money, this sounds like one of the worst. Maybe riding a bicycle with a wicker basket full of $100 bills would be worse...
My 2c is sell the sports car, deposit the money in the bank, fly to Vegas, withdraw some of the money, buy a cheaper car, get to work counting cards. Flying will save both money and time. Second choice would be ship the car, deposit the money, fly, withdraw, get the car, get to work. But why waste the time driving across the country, and the hundreds of dollars on fillups, when there are so many blackjack games that need playing?
You'd spend at least $250 on gas, but flights from AC to LV are as low as $99 with enough advanced planning...
I get what you're saying but you completely ignored the price of shipping the car. $99 airplane ticket is all good and dandy, but the car isn't gonna teleport itself. I did the math already and driving will be cheaper even with filling up the gas time and time again. I also factored in the depreciation of the car after 2500 miles but still seems the best way to get there.
But now everyone got me thinking about the corruption going on with the cops on the side of the road and am definitely thinking twice. Of course I wrote some arguments of why it won't happen, but nothing is ever certain and now its definitely in the back of my mind. If anything I might deposit half and throw the rest in both of my shoes. Even if they illegally search my car without my consent and fake probable cause, its going to be hard for them to get me to go to the police station unless they're really out there to get me, which is why I said I'll try to be as pleasant as possible and not act like a know it all, which should ease them really trying to steal from me, but then again if I'm already stepping out of the car, they're already out to get me.
Land of the free for sure. Absolutely embarrassing.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 12th, 2017 at 11:08:59 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI lived in Volusia County, FL for 10 yrs. Google the Volusia County Sheriff and profiling for details, as they went through a nationally reported overreach for years, confiscating assets on I-95 stops. This stuff still goes on, especially in the South and West.
As for you, ZenKing, good luck with your trip. A lot of experienced people weighed in, you'd rather argue than listen, so luck is what you'll need.
1. They don't need a reason to pull you over, though I'm guessing you've given them one or two or you wouldn't have invested in such a fancy radar. They look at you in your sports car, Jersey plates, tinted windows (especially if the front side windows are so dark they can't see you), and they're going to FIND a reason.
2. Radar detection systems are illegal in several states you're passing thru. So are windows tinted as above. Those will give them reason to search once they've stopped you.
3. The problem with seizure is the cash is immediately gone. Getting it back is expensive and takes months if not years. If you get it back at all.
4. This is falling on deaf ears. That will be a problem for you, and not just in this matter. So I'll stop there and discontinue offering advice you requested. Again, good luck to you.
I already mentioned that if they were to stop me, it would be WITHOUT a reason. Regarding tints, my windows will be down so not worried about that. Regarding the radar I already said the radar is not like the others and I'd undetectable due to the structure its made out of(magnesium). I'm also aware of the states its illegal in and the only state I really have to worry about would be Texas. I also only have two windows on the car, 2 door car and no backseats and both windows will be down.
But like you said and I agree with you, they'll find a reason because I'm an out of state driver, that'd what I'm worried about, then it all depends how much they want to try and violate my rights. I think if I just clean shave and look innocent , young and professional and didnt break any traffic laws, i dont think they will try and bother me to much, especially not try and illegally search my car or me as I most likely don't have large amounts of cash or drugs.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 13th, 2017 at 12:38:37 AM
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Good grief.
Did you really just post, regarding your claimed upcoming mid-winter cross country trip, that "my windows will be DOWN?
Did you really just post, regarding your claimed upcoming mid-winter cross country trip, that "my windows will be DOWN?
"What, me worry?"
January 13th, 2017 at 1:31:08 AM
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Wouldn't you be driving through Virginia, if so Radar detectors are illegal there also.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
January 13th, 2017 at 2:06:31 AM
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FWIW, I shipped my suv from Florida to Hawaii. It was just less than 2000. (Bought it as a second car, used, with which i could haul my new-to-me boat around. One month later, i went to Hawaii. I drove a rental until it arrived, drove it for 2 years, then sold it to a dealer (lower than a private party price) for more than i paid for the car, the shipping, and the rental. That's how hard up they are for cars in Hawaii, at least the Big Island.)
Anyway, That's 3x further than you're going, mileage-wise, and included 5 weeks at sea after leaving land in Long Beach CA. I think if you're getting crazy quotes, like higher than 1/2 that, you should keep.shopping. The best services take in your car and hold it until they have enough to put a bunch on an auto hauler, making it very affordable.
So, you have options.
Did you really say you're going to drive 2000+ miles in the winter at highway speeds with the windows down?
Anyway, That's 3x further than you're going, mileage-wise, and included 5 weeks at sea after leaving land in Long Beach CA. I think if you're getting crazy quotes, like higher than 1/2 that, you should keep.shopping. The best services take in your car and hold it until they have enough to put a bunch on an auto hauler, making it very affordable.
So, you have options.
Did you really say you're going to drive 2000+ miles in the winter at highway speeds with the windows down?
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
January 13th, 2017 at 2:23:04 AM
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Quote: MrVGood grief.
Did you really just post, regarding your claimed upcoming mid-winter cross country trip, that "my windows will be DOWN?
Bruh vape smoke is no joke
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
January 13th, 2017 at 7:42:05 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsFWIW, I shipped my suv from Florida to Hawaii. It was just less than 2000. (Bought it as a second car, used, with which i could haul my new-to-me boat around. One month later, i went to Hawaii. I drove a rental until it arrived, drove it for 2 years, then sold it to a dealer (lower than a private party price) for more than i paid for the car, the shipping, and the rental. That's how hard up they are for cars in Hawaii, at least the Big Island.)
Anyway, That's 3x further than you're going, mileage-wise, and included 5 weeks at sea after leaving land in Long Beach CA. I think if you're getting crazy quotes, like higher than 1/2 that, you should keep.shopping. The best services take in your car and hold it until they have enough to put a bunch on an auto hauler, making it very affordable.
So, you have options.
Did you really say you're going to drive 2000+ miles in the winter at highway speeds with the windows down?
Well windows down in the 'danger' states such as Oklahoma. Obviously can't do that in Utah or Colorado at this time of year. Which other states besides Oklahoma should I be cautious about?
Also even less than 1/2 of $2000 that's still MUCH more than I would pay if I just drove my car out there.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:09:46 AM
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Don't be and Idiot Mr.V he has one of these http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Stand-Hunter-Extreme-Insulated-Coveralls/753783.uts?productVariantId=3831492&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=03862228&rid=20&gclid=CNmas4a9v9ECFUdufgod2hMHJQ&gclsrc=aw.ds.Quote: MrVGood grief.
Did you really just post, regarding your claimed upcoming mid-winter cross country trip, that "my windows will be DOWN?
I can't stand lumpy socks or insoles, let alone driving thousands of miles with 25k-50k stuffed in my shoes. Sounds like a solid plan to me.
*not really calling you an idiot, it's just an expression
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 13th, 2017 at 8:11:57 AM
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My advice was to sell the car, not ship it. You said it's worth 10k? Sell it and buy an 8k car in Vegas, then you have another 2k in your bankroll. What are you driving right now?Quote: ZenKinGI get what you're saying but you completely ignored the price of shipping the car. $99 airplane ticket is all good and dandy, but the car isn't gonna teleport itself. I did the math already and driving will be cheaper even with filling up the gas time and time again. I also factored in the depreciation of the car after 2500 miles but still seems the best way to get there.
If you're set on keeping the car, you've got to accept the costs of managing it, including the time lost due to driving. Time is money, and you won't be making any money on the road. How much money would you make if, instead of driving across the country for N days, you were APing blackjack during those N days? Not making that money is also a cost. And so are the costs of meals, hotel rooms, etc. during your trip. It's not just the $250 in gas and 2500 miles in depreciation. You won't be eating granola bars and sleeping in your car in the middle of winter. You've started to do the math but you haven't done all of it. Under which of your various options do you have the most money two weeks after you leave New Jersey?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
January 13th, 2017 at 8:16:50 AM
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If you don't want to get pulled over, I'd think the wrong approach would be driving down the freeway with a car that appears to be on fire. Vape smoke + car + cold weather =Quote: djatcBruh vape smoke is no joke
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
January 13th, 2017 at 8:17:04 AM
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One of the things being ignored is whether the driving is being done for the experience. I'd love to have driven across America (from one coast to the other on principle). I did 2400 miles in a week but that was a circular loop - (San Diego, Denver, Las Vegas, LA).
Obviously the original question was aimed towards whether to go the shortest route given the weather conditions. But just a thought - trying to ignore that you have a wad of cash with you - is there a more memorable / scenic route, perhaps adding a few days, also perhaps bearing south for the easier weather? If I were that young I'd make a holiday out of the trip.
Obviously the original question was aimed towards whether to go the shortest route given the weather conditions. But just a thought - trying to ignore that you have a wad of cash with you - is there a more memorable / scenic route, perhaps adding a few days, also perhaps bearing south for the easier weather? If I were that young I'd make a holiday out of the trip.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:17:39 AM
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Does anybody really believe any of this? My guess is something comes up and this never happens. If this does happen, he has expressed such poor choices that he will be broke in six months.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:19:12 AM
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Quote: ZenKinGWell windows down in the 'danger' states such as Oklahoma.
Just checked: it's 28 degrees in Oklahoma City, with freezing rain in the forecast.
ZK, you might want to go to "Plan B."
Then again, you could drive through Oklahoma with your windows down, drinking from a bottle of Stoli to keep you warm: just tell the officer who sees you through the open window that cars aren't the only thing that needs antifreeze.
I'm sure he'll understand.
"What, me worry?"
January 13th, 2017 at 8:20:32 AM
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How much time would it take to sell the car? he would be losing time for that as well. He can play BJ on the road to make money.Quote: MathExtremistMy advice was to sell the car, not ship it. You said it's worth 10k? Sell it and buy an 8k car in Vegas, then you have another 2k in your bankroll. What are you driving right now?
If you're set on keeping the car, you've got to accept the costs of managing it, including the time lost due to driving. Time is money, and you won't be making any money on the road. How much money would you make if, instead of driving across the country for N days, you were APing blackjack during those N days? Not making that money is also a cost. And so are the costs of meals, hotel rooms, etc. during your trip. It's not just the $250 in gas and 2500 miles in depreciation. You won't be eating granola bars and sleeping in your car in the middle of winter. You've started to do the math but you haven't done all of it. Under which of your various options do you have the most money two weeks after you leave New Jersey?
Not sure why he would even need an 8k car in Las Vegas. something for 5k would be more than sufficient. Especially since it 's just going to get stolen outside his $400 a month studio apt anyways.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 13th, 2017 at 8:24:09 AM
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If he makes it that long. I certainly wouldn't try driving a RWD sports car over the Rockies in winter. A breakdown on an icy mountain road could be fatal, and if it's not, there go the attempted cost savings anyway.Quote: DRichDoes anybody really believe any of this? My guess is something comes up and this never happens. If this does happen, he has expressed such poor choices that he will be broke in six months.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
January 13th, 2017 at 8:26:29 AM
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Vape smoke and vodka aside, I would still wager that you are much more likely to be pulled over for driving with your windows down in the winter than for having them up and tinted.
"Dealer has 'rock'... Pay 'paper!'"
January 13th, 2017 at 8:37:36 AM
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I'm actually glad the tinting subject came up. I recently bought a truck for moving and stuff . The windows are darkly tinted and it has flashy rims that some minorities tend to gravitate to. It might be a cop magnet.Quote: JoemanVape smoke and vodka aside, I would still wager that you are much more likely to be pulled over for driving with your windows down in the winter than for having them up and tinted.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 13th, 2017 at 8:45:54 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI'm actually glad the tinting subject came up. I recently bought a truck for moving and stuff . The windows are darkly tinted and it has flashy rims that some minorities tend to gravitate to. It might be a cop magnet.
If the windows are purple tinted, instant red flag.
January 13th, 2017 at 10:28:21 AM
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Now the OP plans on driving through Oklahoma, Utah and Colorado?
Pure comedy gold.
Pure comedy gold.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 13th, 2017 at 11:11:13 AM
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Worse ice storm in decades expected to hit central US from Oklahoma to Washington D.C..
Oklahoma Governor declares his entire state in a state of emergency, in advance.
Hundreds of miles of Interstates expected to be shut down for hazardous driving conditions. As much as an inch of ice expected to coat roads.
Sounds like you might want to keep those Windows up.
Oklahoma Governor declares his entire state in a state of emergency, in advance.
Hundreds of miles of Interstates expected to be shut down for hazardous driving conditions. As much as an inch of ice expected to coat roads.
Sounds like you might want to keep those Windows up.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 13th, 2017 at 11:36:56 AM
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When we were shipping a couple of vehicles to Nevada and California, the AAA in Jersey recommended Dependable Auto Shippers, which has a major terminal in Rahway/Linden. The costs weren't that high, the vehicles arrived as scheduled, and the company even made good for a couple of minor scratches on one vehicle. For a small extra charge, they will even do door-to-door service.Quote: ZenKinGWell windows down in the 'danger' states such as Oklahoma. Obviously can't do that in Utah or Colorado at this time of year. Which other states besides Oklahoma should I be cautious about? Also even less than 1/2 of $2000 that's still MUCH more than I would pay if I just drove my car out there.
January 13th, 2017 at 11:45:34 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI'm actually glad the tinting subject came up. I recently bought a truck ... and ...[t]he windows are darkly tinted. It might be a cop magnet.
Axel,
C'mon, buddy. After all the friendly posts on this thread from the WoV Tough-Love Committee, you of all people wouldn't be planning to drive anywhere with lotsa $$$ and a truck filled with anything that might arouse "suspicion," are you??
January 13th, 2017 at 11:46:02 AM
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It's not cheap. I looked into it and think the final cost was just under $1500, door to door. $1300 station to station.
I will admit I only called one service, and don't remember who it was.
My circumstances were different, as I also had a large dog to get out here.
I will admit I only called one service, and don't remember who it was.
My circumstances were different, as I also had a large dog to get out here.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 13th, 2017 at 12:28:48 PM
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NFL has moved the Kansas City game from early afternoon to a night game on Sunday because of weather.
Hotels along 40 are shutting down, anticipating prolonged power outages. No power, no gas pumps in many areas.
Hotels along 40 are shutting down, anticipating prolonged power outages. No power, no gas pumps in many areas.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 13th, 2017 at 3:14:56 PM
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Sounds like a perfect time to go cruising with the windows down and your shoes packed with your stash!
January 13th, 2017 at 4:57:16 PM
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My advice is to drive as fast as possible. The faster you drive, the less time you'll be on the road. The less time you're on the road, the less likely you are to get pulled over or get into an accident. Police know this, so they won't pull you over if you're going 20+ MPH over the limit. Plus, they know you don't have the time to deal with their BS....someone speeding has things to do.
January 13th, 2017 at 5:29:56 PM
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This might blow a hole in his bankroll but it would certainly help him get over the mountains:Quote: RSMy advice is to drive as fast as possible. The faster you drive, the less time you'll be on the road. The less time you're on the road, the less likely you are to get pulled over or get into an accident. Police know this, so they won't pull you over if you're going 20+ MPH over the limit. Plus, they know you don't have the time to deal with their BS....someone speeding has things to do.
On the other hand, he might keep going.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
January 13th, 2017 at 7:04:14 PM
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Oh yeah, be sure to pick up hitch hikers to keep you company.
They're often clustered around the state penitentiaries, but don't worry, they did their time, they're rehabilitated.
They're often clustered around the state penitentiaries, but don't worry, they did their time, they're rehabilitated.
"What, me worry?"
January 13th, 2017 at 7:23:15 PM
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Driving at night with your lights out reduces the crooked cops ability to see you. Night vision goggles are cheap enough, and sell them when you get here. That trick doesn't work round here.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:21:05 PM
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Quote: billryanNow the OP plans on driving through Oklahoma, Utah and Colorado?
Pure comedy gold.
I never said that. My plan was always to go the southern route. Where do you people read this in my messages?
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:26:02 PM
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Quote: charliepatrickOne of the things being ignored is whether the driving is being done for the experience. I'd love to have driven across America (from one coast to the other on principle). I did 2400 miles in a week but that was a circular loop - (San Diego, Denver, Las Vegas, LA).
Obviously the original question was aimed towards whether to go the shortest route given the weather conditions. But just a thought - trying to ignore that you have a wad of cash with you - is there a more memorable / scenic route, perhaps adding a few days, also perhaps bearing south for the easier weather? If I were that young I'd make a holiday out of the trip.
That's one of the main reasons I want to drive by car. I never drove in any of these states and a lot of these states would be nice to go through especially as a first time. Also I can potentially stop at a couple casinos during the trip.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:27:09 PM
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Quote: SanchoPanzaWhen we were shipping a couple of vehicles to Nevada and California, the AAA in Jersey recommended Dependable Auto Shippers, which has a major terminal in Rahway/Linden. The costs weren't that high, the vehicles arrived as scheduled, and the company even made good for a couple of minor scratches on one vehicle. For a small extra charge, they will even do door-to-door service.
Thanks Sancho, I actually live like 10 minutes from there. But it looks like im going to make it a drive instead. Just worried about what to do with my bankroll for now. Most likely deposit half and put the rest in my shoes. LOL
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 13th, 2017 at 8:27:59 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistThis might blow a hole in his bankroll but it would certainly help him get over the mountains:
On the other hand, he might keep going.
You didnt think I would have a RWD sports car without having NOS equipped, did you? I keep it constructed under the center console.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 13th, 2017 at 11:22:55 PM
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When/if you get pulled over, be sure to show the police officer who's boss. Remember, you're the alpha male. When pulled over, don't let the cop approach your car. Instead, immediately step out of your car and walk directly toward him. You want to intimidate the police officer. If he is intimidated, he'll be less likely to give you a ticket. If he yells at you to stop approaching, you gotta be louder and yell back at him -- don't back down, keep walking towards him. This is a test the policeman will use to determine if you're a bada** or not.
January 14th, 2017 at 3:42:20 AM
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Well I didn't want to post anything but I am having a hard time resisting the candy trail in this thread. I could give good advice but it doesn't matter because the OP is most likely Full of you know what. The story has changed so many times in the last 6 weeks or so I can't keep track. Last I remember he took a huge hit at the tables and his bankroll was cut either in half or more so. I recall him swearing off BJ. All of this doesn't matter. I don't believe him at all and even if he does come out to Vegas he is going to have many, many difficult events that he never seen coming and going to have to deal with them accordingly.
The point of my post was that if you ask me what one should do when being chased or pulled over by the police... I think this is the best example of how to handle the situation!
Warning!! Video Link!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwDlobymMk0
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. THIS IS WRONG... IT AROUSES CONTEMPT IN THE COP HEART!! MAKE THE BASTARD CHASE YOU! He will follow, but he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says your about to turn right. This is to let him know your pulling over for a proper place to talk. It'll take him a moment to realize he's about to make a 180-degree turn,at speed, but you will be ready... brace for the G's with fast heel-toe work!
Blah blah blah and here is the best quote for this situation!!
Yeah, I know. I'm guilty. I understand that. I knew it was a crime. I DID IT ANYWAY!
S**t, why argue? I'm a F****ing criminal. Look at me.
The point of my post was that if you ask me what one should do when being chased or pulled over by the police... I think this is the best example of how to handle the situation!
Warning!! Video Link!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwDlobymMk0
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. THIS IS WRONG... IT AROUSES CONTEMPT IN THE COP HEART!! MAKE THE BASTARD CHASE YOU! He will follow, but he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says your about to turn right. This is to let him know your pulling over for a proper place to talk. It'll take him a moment to realize he's about to make a 180-degree turn,at speed, but you will be ready... brace for the G's with fast heel-toe work!
Blah blah blah and here is the best quote for this situation!!
Yeah, I know. I'm guilty. I understand that. I knew it was a crime. I DID IT ANYWAY!
S**t, why argue? I'm a F****ing criminal. Look at me.
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January 14th, 2017 at 6:07:40 AM
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If you are really doing this, you'd likely make it all the way across the country with your bankroll intact.
The stupidity in your plan, if it is real, is that you are taking chances that you need not take. You are trying to convince yourself that you are smarter than all of the experienced folks here who have seen things happen that cost people, at least temporarily, their bankroll. You don't realize that the laws for seizure, wrong as they might be, give way to much leeway to some hick cop in a podunk town. Most cops don't abuse power, of course...but just enough do to not push the envelope.
What about the simple little criminal robbers out there that could steal your money?
Hell, what about a bad gambling decision made because too much of your bankroll is actually in your hands? I think you already mentioned doing that...
Again, you'll likely make it with your foolish money in the shoe deal. Then you'll brag about it here and tell us how wrong we were when we told you there was a low percentage chance of something bad happening but a high percentage chance that something bad happening could cost you the part of the bankroll in hand (and some of the rest of it in potentially unrecoverable lawyer's fees!).
Then someone else will take your advice and not that of the people with more experience here and they'll be the one to lose their bankroll...by stupidly following stupidity.
Anyway, if it is a real trip, good luck to you!!
The stupidity in your plan, if it is real, is that you are taking chances that you need not take. You are trying to convince yourself that you are smarter than all of the experienced folks here who have seen things happen that cost people, at least temporarily, their bankroll. You don't realize that the laws for seizure, wrong as they might be, give way to much leeway to some hick cop in a podunk town. Most cops don't abuse power, of course...but just enough do to not push the envelope.
What about the simple little criminal robbers out there that could steal your money?
Hell, what about a bad gambling decision made because too much of your bankroll is actually in your hands? I think you already mentioned doing that...
Again, you'll likely make it with your foolish money in the shoe deal. Then you'll brag about it here and tell us how wrong we were when we told you there was a low percentage chance of something bad happening but a high percentage chance that something bad happening could cost you the part of the bankroll in hand (and some of the rest of it in potentially unrecoverable lawyer's fees!).
Then someone else will take your advice and not that of the people with more experience here and they'll be the one to lose their bankroll...by stupidly following stupidity.
Anyway, if it is a real trip, good luck to you!!
January 14th, 2017 at 7:20:20 AM
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Quote: ZenKinGThat's one of the main reasons I want to drive by car. I never drove in any of these states and a lot of these states would be nice to go through especially as a first time. Also I can potentially stop at a couple casinos during the trip.
Zen,
First, let me compliment you for the true "Zen-like" restraint you have shown while everybody and his brother has piled on. Ideally, WoV folks would try to add "light" in their comments without also adding all the "heat."
If your current plan is to take a "southern" route, my assumption is that you may wind up connecting with I-10, either via I-95, I-75, or I-65. In that case, you will drive through southern Mississippi and across Louisiana, where you will have ample opportunity to rest and play BJ (or other games). Shreveport, LA is a comfortable day's drive from Biloxi, MS. Both of those cities have multiple casinos competing against one another for your gambling business. So, you should be able to find games with low limits and reasonable rules if you use them as stopping off points.
Moving to "Lost Wages, NV" will probably limit visits the Gulfcoast area again anytime soon. If you take an extra day or two in your travels to get off the Interstate highways, you have the opportunity to see some beautiful seashore areas. Also, the seafood and Cajun food is second to none. But, I understand. You have places to go and things to do, so this might not occur.
Regardless of how you manage your money, this sounds like a real adventure, with the final result being that you arrive in NV and (hopefully) begin a successful career as an AP. Assuming everything goes as planned, I would enjoy seeing any posts you care to share during your travels. I hope it works out well for you. Good luck.
January 14th, 2017 at 3:23:35 PM
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I would also suggest that if you make it to the East St. Louis area, find the lowest income most desperate area and pull into an alley. Keep bowing your horn until a crowd gathers around your car. Once there is 10 to 20 people there tell them you have $75,000 hidden in your shoes and offer to give one of them $20 to ride along with you and protect you from the cops. The key is a real poor ghetto area, otherwise they might expect $50 to help you.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
January 14th, 2017 at 7:41:58 PM
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You could always take the Interstate 76-70 route until you got to St. Louis, then change over to I-44, taking that southwest until you hit I-40 at Oklahoma City, taking that to Kingman, AZ. Then take Highway 93 north to Vegas. That way if the winter weather is decent in the east but sucks in the west, you'll dip under it (hopefully).
"Bite my Glorious Golden Ass!" - Bender Bending Rodriguez
January 14th, 2017 at 9:03:44 PM
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Dude, you want to avoid snow and ice, do you?
Head to New Orleans, and hop aboard.
Hello, Panama Canal!
Take the slow boat to the Port of Los Angeles, then motor on into Las Vegas, windows down, money safely in hand (or is it in foot?)
Head to New Orleans, and hop aboard.
Hello, Panama Canal!
Take the slow boat to the Port of Los Angeles, then motor on into Las Vegas, windows down, money safely in hand (or is it in foot?)
"What, me worry?"
January 14th, 2017 at 9:19:24 PM
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Have fun explaining why you are leaving the country with $50,000 in your shoes.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 14th, 2017 at 11:20:49 PM
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Quote: billryanHave fun explaining why you are leaving the country with $50,000 in your shoes.
Inb4 rant about "government has no right to know how much cash I have on me..." or something along those lines.
January 15th, 2017 at 2:58:52 AM
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In another lifetime, I worked security for a Puerto Rican boy band.
We did a small East Coast tour that ended with three days in NY. Our hotel was across the street from the venue and each night, we'd cross over with shopping bags full of cash from merchandise sales. The local promoter had arraigned for us to take the cash to his bank and give us a cashier's check for it, but our last show was on Sunday, and Monday was a holiday with our flight in the afternoon. Going into various bars and stores, I managed to turn a couple thousand In fives, ones and tens into $50s and $100s, but we still had about fifteen bags of cash, and a van full of luggage. As we get to JFK, one of the bottoms of the bags breaks and bricks of tens and twenties fall out. We gather them without incident but as we go to board, several plainclothes officers intercept us and ask one of the boys to accompany them to an office.I say I'm his chaperone and if one goes, we all go. On the way there, one of the officers tells the kid we are all in big trouble for attempting to leave the country with more than $10,000 and starts asking for our drug connections. I'm trying to explain who the kids are, and where the money came from, and that we aren't leaving the country in the first place. I hear a commotion, and turn to see that a couple of girls passing by recognised the guys and were going mad. Within minutes, there are 40-50 girls there asking for autographs, pictures, hugs. Meanwhile I'm standing there trying to watch fifteen bags of cash and talk to the cops.
It worked out in the end, but they didn't pay me enough for days like that.
We did a small East Coast tour that ended with three days in NY. Our hotel was across the street from the venue and each night, we'd cross over with shopping bags full of cash from merchandise sales. The local promoter had arraigned for us to take the cash to his bank and give us a cashier's check for it, but our last show was on Sunday, and Monday was a holiday with our flight in the afternoon. Going into various bars and stores, I managed to turn a couple thousand In fives, ones and tens into $50s and $100s, but we still had about fifteen bags of cash, and a van full of luggage. As we get to JFK, one of the bottoms of the bags breaks and bricks of tens and twenties fall out. We gather them without incident but as we go to board, several plainclothes officers intercept us and ask one of the boys to accompany them to an office.I say I'm his chaperone and if one goes, we all go. On the way there, one of the officers tells the kid we are all in big trouble for attempting to leave the country with more than $10,000 and starts asking for our drug connections. I'm trying to explain who the kids are, and where the money came from, and that we aren't leaving the country in the first place. I hear a commotion, and turn to see that a couple of girls passing by recognised the guys and were going mad. Within minutes, there are 40-50 girls there asking for autographs, pictures, hugs. Meanwhile I'm standing there trying to watch fifteen bags of cash and talk to the cops.
It worked out in the end, but they didn't pay me enough for days like that.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
January 15th, 2017 at 9:11:10 AM
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I never said I would be driving across the country or carrying a bunch of cash. I'm talking hauling furniture or whatever else around the Vegas Valley.Quote: LuckyPhowQuote: AxelWolfI'm actually glad the tinting subject came up. I recently bought a truck ... and ...[t]he windows are darkly tinted. It might be a cop magnet.
Axel,
C'mon, buddy. After all the friendly posts on this thread from the WoV Tough-Love Committee, you of all people wouldn't be planning to drive anywhere with lotsa $$$ and a truck filled with anything that might arouse "suspicion," are you??
I just don't want to get pulled over for having tinted windows. The law here says something about 35% light transmittance. I don't know how dark that would actually be. Ill stop at a tinting place and ask.
I'm wondering how a cop could tell at night while just passing by you what percentage your tint was? It would seem like any tinting seen at night would appear fairly dark giving them an excuse to pull you over.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 18th, 2017 at 5:59:49 PM
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Looks like Google Maps doesnt have the 'southern route' up anymore. I hope this is not because there have been some major closures due to winter storms coming?
My final plan is to take 78 which turns into 81 down to 40 in Tennessee, then ALL THE WAY ACROSS to Kingman, Arizona and finally taking 93 up to vegas. Yes, I will have to face my demons with Oklahoma cops. But to me this is the best route, because 40 if it's bad i could always go down all the way to 10 which should give me a good chance of avoiding snow. All in all, if i dont have to drop down to 10, it looks like it's going to be about a 39 hour trip.
The states I will be driving through with this route will initially be Pennsylvania, then taking 81 down through Maryland, Virginia, into Tennessee then taking 40 through Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and then finally Arizona where I pick up 93 in Kingman and take it up to 515 and finally get to Vegas.
Thoughts?
My final plan is to take 78 which turns into 81 down to 40 in Tennessee, then ALL THE WAY ACROSS to Kingman, Arizona and finally taking 93 up to vegas. Yes, I will have to face my demons with Oklahoma cops. But to me this is the best route, because 40 if it's bad i could always go down all the way to 10 which should give me a good chance of avoiding snow. All in all, if i dont have to drop down to 10, it looks like it's going to be about a 39 hour trip.
The states I will be driving through with this route will initially be Pennsylvania, then taking 81 down through Maryland, Virginia, into Tennessee then taking 40 through Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and then finally Arizona where I pick up 93 in Kingman and take it up to 515 and finally get to Vegas.
Thoughts?
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Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
January 18th, 2017 at 6:18:16 PM
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Car manufacturers default window tint is at least 70%. The lower the number, the darker it is. If I'm not mistaken, for the most part:
Regular (default) windows -- 70% -- very easy to see through, no tint
Lightly tinted (my rear windows in my car) -- 35% -- appear tinted but can still see through
Dark tint -- 20% -- obviously tinted, can't see through at night, might be able to see through during day (barely)
Very dark tint -- 5% -- limo tint....can't see through it whatsoever, unless you put your face right up to it
I'd probably wait till summer time to tint your windows. The heat and sunlight help set it the right way. I got mine done in the winter (northern MW area) and it got f***ed up, although hard to tell. I might re-do my windows, probably 20% in the back and 35% in the front.
Regular (default) windows -- 70% -- very easy to see through, no tint
Lightly tinted (my rear windows in my car) -- 35% -- appear tinted but can still see through
Dark tint -- 20% -- obviously tinted, can't see through at night, might be able to see through during day (barely)
Very dark tint -- 5% -- limo tint....can't see through it whatsoever, unless you put your face right up to it
I'd probably wait till summer time to tint your windows. The heat and sunlight help set it the right way. I got mine done in the winter (northern MW area) and it got f***ed up, although hard to tell. I might re-do my windows, probably 20% in the back and 35% in the front.
