ILOVEBJS
ILOVEBJS
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November 21st, 2016 at 4:41:03 PM permalink
So I went to the casino today and played Black jack. I played basic strategy exactly properly on 8 decks at the Seminole
Casino in Florida. Bj pays 1.5 to 1. No surrender. Double after split. Ok so I lost $300 playing $10-15 a hand. I also
Count cards and I am very good at it. When the count was
Positive like +6 running count or higher increased my bet to 15-20. Played table min as long as count was no worse then -7, since the count can cart drastically round to
Round. I don't like to make it look obvious that I'm counting and jump in and out of games so I play table min usually to deck gets hot true count of +3 or more. But for some reason I lost almost every hand just playing table min following basic strategy. What am I doing wrong??!!! Am I too short stacked. Should I have more risk tolerance and be buying in for $500. I'm an excellent card counter but just been getting
Unlucky. Any recommendations from the pros out there. Any way I should be changing play with different counts??? Im so frustrated with this game. But I keep
Hearing it's beatable. What am I doing wrong??
alphastorm
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November 21st, 2016 at 5:58:38 PM permalink
Maybe you're not as good as you think you are. The casino probably don't have room for that giant sized ego so they cheated you out so you'd leave and never come back.
RS
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November 21st, 2016 at 6:20:04 PM permalink
Learn more about the game. There are plenty of books on the subject. Professional Blackjack. Modern Blackjack. Blackjack Attack. Look for something written by Don Schleisinger or Stanford Wong.
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FleaStiff
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November 21st, 2016 at 7:02:26 PM permalink
Casino have heard that too. Its very profitable for them to have people believe it.

IF you play basic strategy... all you get is optimal decision making, not advantages or necessary wins.

Drop the counting for a while, play BS and nothing else.

Besure you are at a good table. The lower tables are 6:5.

No one here wishes you any ill will. It still remains a game of chance, all you are doing is playing well. Remember the first winning MIT cheaters in Vegas, first went to a nearby casino and there they lost their shirts.
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November 21st, 2016 at 7:03:22 PM permalink
I'll be at Seminole tomm I can watch and tell you watch you are doing wrong- Seminole ?
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November 21st, 2016 at 7:34:16 PM permalink
Even if you played perfect, you only add a small % of positive expectation. You can still lose every time, it's just part of the game's variance. If you're as good as you say you are, then if you just stick with it, you should win. You might get backed off in the meanwhile. By only increasing your bet by 1.5 or 2x, your taking very little advantage of the count. A real crew would seat someone playing 10x what you bet, working as a counter, but I don't think they'd try it using an 8-deck shoe.

However, this time it worked out for you by keeping your increase low. You got lucky to not have overplayed your advantage. So, I'd say your not doing anything wrong at all. Better luck next time, and you might try finding a smaller shoe.
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Hunterhill
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November 21st, 2016 at 8:33:10 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Casino have heard that too. Its very profitable for them to have people believe it.

IF you play basic strategy... all you get is optimal decision making, not advantages or necessary wins.

Drop the counting for a while, play BS and nothing else.

Besure you are at a good table. The lower tables are 6:5.

No one here wishes you any ill will. It still remains a game of chance, all you are doing is playing well. Remember the first winning MIT cheaters in Vegas, first went to a nearby casino and there they lost their shirts.


Really the MIT Cheaters?I thought they were counting,you must have them confused with someone else.
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FleaStiff
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November 21st, 2016 at 8:54:27 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Really the MIT Cheaters?I thought they were counting,you must have them confused with someone else.

NOPE. They were counting but decided upon a trial first-run to a casino in the NE.. and they lost despite their abilities to count. Most of the original team were Orientals or recruited by Orientals and put thru drills that not only involved counting but counting with one hand in ice-water or with a metal bucket and a beater that made an awful racket during which they could not lose the count.
Hunterhill
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November 21st, 2016 at 9:03:37 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

NOPE. They were counting but decided upon a trial first-run to a casino in the NE.. and they lost despite their abilities to count. Most of the original team were Orientals or recruited by Orientals and put thru drills that not only involved counting but counting with one hand in ice-water or with a metal bucket and a beater that made an awful racket during which they could not lose the count.


Yes I'm quite familiar with the Mit group, my question was that you were referring to them as Cheaters.
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ThatDonGuy
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November 22nd, 2016 at 6:02:10 AM permalink
Quote: ILOVEBJS

Im so frustrated with this game. But I keep Hearing it's beatable. What am I doing wrong??


It sounds like what you are doing wrong is, you are interpreting "beatable" as "win almost 100% of the time."

It sounds like you had a bad streak of cards. It happens.

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