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Wizard
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July 10th, 2016 at 4:50:37 PM permalink
Buster Blackjack is a side bet if the dealer busts. The win depends on the number of cards required. I think this side bet has been around for a while. I thought I wrote up a page on it, but couldn't find it, so just created a new Buster Blackjack page.

Please click on the link and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Buster Blackjack, assuming you were playing blackkjack in the first place?
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Wizardofnothing
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July 10th, 2016 at 6:35:04 PM permalink
Mike you were quite comical with the options toniggt
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Acender
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July 10th, 2016 at 10:16:58 PM permalink
With a high enough count, could the buster bet become lucrative?
Ibeatyouraces
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July 10th, 2016 at 11:16:32 PM permalink
Quote: Acender

With a high enough count, could the buster bet become lucrative?



https://apheat.net/2013/04/25/card-counting-the-buster-blackjack-side-bet-6-decks/
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Wizard
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July 11th, 2016 at 3:19:54 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Mike you were quite comical with the options toniggt



Thanks. To be honest, I'm starting to run low on ideas.
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charliepatrick
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July 11th, 2016 at 3:39:21 AM permalink
I'm depressed - the house edge is fairly high so surely it should be rated as in the "best avoided" category.
Acender
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July 11th, 2016 at 9:19:06 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

/2013/04/25/card-counting-the-buster-blackjack-side-bet-6-decks/



That's actually quite reasonable. Not a bad SB at all.

Quote: charliepatrick

I'm depressed - the house edge is fairly high so surely it should be rated as in the "best avoided" category.



Take some happy pills and make some buster bets. The future is a bright one!
Paradigm
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July 11th, 2016 at 9:36:19 AM permalink
With almost 92% of wins paying 2-1, this bet requires red action to have any juice for the player. Works well and gets action in So Cal market where it is difficult to play anything less than $15 min BJ. $15-$25 main bet with a $5-$10 Buster bet seems to work.

A $5 main with a $1 Buster bet that is going to pay you $2 when the dealer busts...not so exciting for me, but AGS is placing it aggressively these days. It will be interesting to see how sticky it is outside of its So Cal original market.
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Joeman
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July 11th, 2016 at 1:29:07 PM permalink
So, I was playing the demo and was dealt a BJ. Since I had the Buster bet up, dealer finished out his hand, eventually drawing to a 21. It pushed my main BJ bet! I assume this is a glitch in the app, and not an actual rule of the bet?

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gordonm888
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July 11th, 2016 at 4:23:49 PM permalink
First, if the players all bust then usually the dealer does not hit his hand to determine whether hhands of <17 would ahve gone bust. - do you lose the Buster BJ side-bet in this situation? Or does the dealer hits his cards anyway if he has less than a 17 in order to determine the outcome of the sidebet? If the dealer does not always play out his hand, the House Edge on the sidebet should be calculated assuming that the dealer does not play the hand when all players go bust -and thus the calculated side-bet should be a function of the number of players at the table.

I am very confused by this site:

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

https://apheat.net/2013/04/25/card-counting-the-buster-blackjack-side-bet-6-decks/



The House edge is quoted to be different than what the Wizard just calculated for what appears to be the same assumptions on BJ rules. In this site's quoted simulation of 100M hands on a six-deck game with a card count of the A,2,3 cards, I don't understand if the dealer is assumed to play out his <17 hands when the player goes bust.

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