November 6th, 2015 at 6:59:50 AM
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can anyone help with blackjack simulation card/win-lose data? i have a friend, who asked me for this.

it can be CSM or manually.

it is like this:

player wins: player: 6,7,8, dealer: 8,5,T.

dealer wins: Player: 4,6, double, 5 dealer: 6,7,5

.....

at least 10000, hands.

i cannot find them in wizardofodds, i can only find baccarat data:

Following are 1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes. The shoe contained six decks and was dealt until the number of cards remaining in the shoe was less than 6. Following are the fields in each comma delimited record.

Field 1: Winning outcome (P = Player win, B = Banker win, T = Tie win)

Field 2: Point value of banker hand

Field 3: Point value of player hand

Field 4: Point value of banker's first card

Field 5: Point value of banker's second card

Field 6: Point value of banker's third card if taken, x otherwise

Field 7: Point value of player's first card

Field 8: Point value of player's second card

Field 9: Point value of player's third card if taken, x otherwise

Shoe Number 1

B,9,1,0,9,x,1,0,x

P,2,7,4,8,0,0,5,2

B,6,2,6,0,x,0,0,2

P,0,6,0,0,0,0,6,x

B,7,0,1,4,2,3,2,5

P,0,9,6,4,x,0,9,x

B,8,6,2,6,x,1,5,x

P,0,4,2,8,0,0,1,3

P,3,7,9,4,0,4,0,3

T,4,4,4,6,4,1,0,3

B,9,5,2,7,x,1,4,x

P,8,9,4,4,x,0,9,x

P,0,4,0,0,0,1,3,0

P,4,9,9,5,x,5,4,x

B,8,6,4,6,8,0,6,x

B,3,0,1,0,2,2,1,7

B,9,6,8,1,x,8,8,x

B,9,7,9,0,x,2,5,x

T,2,2,8,4,0,7,5,0

P,2,4,8,4,0,0,0,4

P,5,7,2,3,x,4,0,3

P,6,9,7,9,x,2,7,x

P,0,8,5,5,x,0,8,x

P,6,7,6,0,x,2,5,x

B,7,2,0,7,x,0,0,2

B,8,5,2,6,x,7,8,x

B,9,5,0,9,x,8,7,x

B,8,5,0,8,x,4,1,x

P,8,9,7,1,x,0,9,x

B,6,3,9,7,x,9,4,0

P,1,9,1,0,x,9,0,x

B,9,2,6,3,x,2,0,x

B,7,6,3,4,x,6,7,3

P,0,3,0,0,0,6,7,0

P,2,5,3,9,0,0,0,5

P,2,8,2,0,x,8,0,x

B,8,1,1,7,x,0,1,x

P,8,9,0,8,x,2,7,x

B,4,3,0,1,3,0,3,0

B,9,6,0,9,x,6,0,x

B,8,2,0,0,8,9,5,8

B,9,5,0,0,9,2,0,3

B,5,0,0,5,x,0,0,0

P,4,7,0,3,1,7,0,x

B,9,7,5,5,9,1,6,x

P,7,9,7,0,x,4,8,7

B,8,0,1,7,x,5,5,x

B,8,2,8,0,x,0,2,x

B,9,1,3,6,x,3,8,x

B,6,5,0,6,x,5,0,0

T,7,7,1,6,x,8,3,6

B,9,6,6,3,x,5,1,x

B,8,5,5,3,x,5,0,x

B,7,0,7,5,5,0,0,0

P,0,5,5,9,6,2,0,3

B,7,6,7,0,x,6,0,x

T,3,3,7,7,9,9,2,2

P,0,9,0,0,0,6,6,7

B,3,1,2,1,0,7,4,0

P,2,8,9,3,x,0,8,x

B,9,7,0,9,x,9,8,x

B,8,0,4,4,x,1,9,x

T,8,8,8,0,x,0,8,x

P,3,7,0,3,0,0,1,6

Banker Wins = 34

Player Wins = 25

Tie Wins = 5

Shoe Number 2

P,4,8,0,4,x,4,4,x

B,5,2,6,8,1,0,0,2

B,9,5,0,0,9,7,3,5

P,3,7,0,0,3,0,0,7

B,6,0,7,9,x,4,7,9

P,5,7,0,0,5,8,2,7

B,9,7,4,5,x,5,2,x

B,9,0,1,2,6,1,9,0

P,1,8,0,1,x,2,6,x

B,9,4,0,9,x,0,4,x

B,7,6,7,0,x,2,0,4

......

it can be CSM or manually.

it is like this:

player wins: player: 6,7,8, dealer: 8,5,T.

dealer wins: Player: 4,6, double, 5 dealer: 6,7,5

.....

at least 10000, hands.

i cannot find them in wizardofodds, i can only find baccarat data:

Following are 1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes. The shoe contained six decks and was dealt until the number of cards remaining in the shoe was less than 6. Following are the fields in each comma delimited record.

Field 1: Winning outcome (P = Player win, B = Banker win, T = Tie win)

Field 2: Point value of banker hand

Field 3: Point value of player hand

Field 4: Point value of banker's first card

Field 5: Point value of banker's second card

Field 6: Point value of banker's third card if taken, x otherwise

Field 7: Point value of player's first card

Field 8: Point value of player's second card

Field 9: Point value of player's third card if taken, x otherwise

Shoe Number 1

B,9,1,0,9,x,1,0,x

P,2,7,4,8,0,0,5,2

B,6,2,6,0,x,0,0,2

P,0,6,0,0,0,0,6,x

B,7,0,1,4,2,3,2,5

P,0,9,6,4,x,0,9,x

B,8,6,2,6,x,1,5,x

P,0,4,2,8,0,0,1,3

P,3,7,9,4,0,4,0,3

T,4,4,4,6,4,1,0,3

B,9,5,2,7,x,1,4,x

P,8,9,4,4,x,0,9,x

P,0,4,0,0,0,1,3,0

P,4,9,9,5,x,5,4,x

B,8,6,4,6,8,0,6,x

B,3,0,1,0,2,2,1,7

B,9,6,8,1,x,8,8,x

B,9,7,9,0,x,2,5,x

T,2,2,8,4,0,7,5,0

P,2,4,8,4,0,0,0,4

P,5,7,2,3,x,4,0,3

P,6,9,7,9,x,2,7,x

P,0,8,5,5,x,0,8,x

P,6,7,6,0,x,2,5,x

B,7,2,0,7,x,0,0,2

B,8,5,2,6,x,7,8,x

B,9,5,0,9,x,8,7,x

B,8,5,0,8,x,4,1,x

P,8,9,7,1,x,0,9,x

B,6,3,9,7,x,9,4,0

P,1,9,1,0,x,9,0,x

B,9,2,6,3,x,2,0,x

B,7,6,3,4,x,6,7,3

P,0,3,0,0,0,6,7,0

P,2,5,3,9,0,0,0,5

P,2,8,2,0,x,8,0,x

B,8,1,1,7,x,0,1,x

P,8,9,0,8,x,2,7,x

B,4,3,0,1,3,0,3,0

B,9,6,0,9,x,6,0,x

B,8,2,0,0,8,9,5,8

B,9,5,0,0,9,2,0,3

B,5,0,0,5,x,0,0,0

P,4,7,0,3,1,7,0,x

B,9,7,5,5,9,1,6,x

P,7,9,7,0,x,4,8,7

B,8,0,1,7,x,5,5,x

B,8,2,8,0,x,0,2,x

B,9,1,3,6,x,3,8,x

B,6,5,0,6,x,5,0,0

T,7,7,1,6,x,8,3,6

B,9,6,6,3,x,5,1,x

B,8,5,5,3,x,5,0,x

B,7,0,7,5,5,0,0,0

P,0,5,5,9,6,2,0,3

B,7,6,7,0,x,6,0,x

T,3,3,7,7,9,9,2,2

P,0,9,0,0,0,6,6,7

B,3,1,2,1,0,7,4,0

P,2,8,9,3,x,0,8,x

B,9,7,0,9,x,9,8,x

B,8,0,4,4,x,1,9,x

T,8,8,8,0,x,0,8,x

P,3,7,0,3,0,0,1,6

Banker Wins = 34

Player Wins = 25

Tie Wins = 5

Shoe Number 2

P,4,8,0,4,x,4,4,x

B,5,2,6,8,1,0,0,2

B,9,5,0,0,9,7,3,5

P,3,7,0,0,3,0,0,7

B,6,0,7,9,x,4,7,9

P,5,7,0,0,5,8,2,7

B,9,7,4,5,x,5,2,x

B,9,0,1,2,6,1,9,0

P,1,8,0,1,x,2,6,x

B,9,4,0,9,x,0,4,x

B,7,6,7,0,x,2,0,4

......

November 6th, 2015 at 7:15:12 PM
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hi, Romes,

are u there?

it is well known that you know everything about blackjack.

can u help with up needed?

are u there?

it is well known that you know everything about blackjack.

can u help with up needed?

November 6th, 2015 at 7:35:16 PM
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November 7th, 2015 at 9:14:18 AM
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maybe.

i guess there is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free.

like Wizard and Romes.

especially Romes, he is so powerful and an expert in blackjack.

hi, Romes,

will u take this challenge?

i guess there is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free.

like Wizard and Romes.

especially Romes, he is so powerful and an expert in blackjack.

hi, Romes,

will u take this challenge?

November 7th, 2015 at 12:23:11 PM
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There are probably quite a few who could generate this type of info - but not necessarily for free. Remember some people here make a living for providing advice on gaming and have probably developed simulators as part of their work. The other thing, only based on info I have seen, is that these things are either to confirm House Edge, countability issues or used during the initial design of a game. I'm guessing they typically only look at one hand versus the dealer - certainly that's all I've done.Quote:tomchina123...is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free...

November 7th, 2015 at 2:32:04 PM
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Why is everybody looking at me like that?Quote:tomchina123i guess there is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free.

I'm confused as to what the original post wants. Does he (assuming a male) want 10,000 hands dealt out and shown card-by-card, with notes as to when the player doubled (and, presumably, split)?

Note that this would require some assumptions as to what strategy to use.

November 7th, 2015 at 2:37:34 PM
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Quote:ThatDonGuyWhy is everybody looking at me like that?

I'm confused as to what the original post wants. Does he (assuming a male) want 10,000 hands dealt out and shown card-by-card, with notes as to when the player doubled (and, presumably, split)?

Note that this would require some assumptions as to what strategy to use.

He confused you with Don S. on BJTF.

"And that's the bottom lineeeee, cuz Stone Cold said so!"

November 7th, 2015 at 2:50:36 PM
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Who knows? Perhaps something like this....Quote:ThatDonGuy....Does he (assuming a male) want 10,000 hands dealt out and shown card-by-card, with notes as to when the player doubled (and, presumably, split)?...

Dl: T55 Pl: 7T D:20 P:17 Lose

Dl: T9 Pl: 89 D:19 P:17 Lose

Dl: 7K Pl: 233532 D:17 P:18 Win

Dl: 967 Pl: J52 D:0 P:17 Win

Dl: T Pl: 75T D:10 P:-1 Lose

Dl: 9J Pl: T7 D:19 P:17 Lose

Dl: A7 Pl: 669 D:18 P:21 Win

Dl: 46T Pl: 66/Q (6)8 D:20 P:16 Lose P:14 Lose

Dl: 4Q7 Pl: 56dJ D:21 P:21 Tie dbl

Dl: Q Pl: 448T D:10 P:-1 Lose

Dl: 676 Pl: 44/5d3 (4)T D:19 P:12 Lose dbl P:14 Lose

Dl: 9K Pl: TT D:19 P:20 Win

Dl: AT Pl: 9A D:111 P:20 Lose

Dl: 598 Pl: TT D:0 P:20 Win

Dl: 7725 Pl: KK D:21 P:20 Lose

Dl: 5K5 Pl: 4Ad5 D:20 P:20 Tie dbl

Dl: KJ Pl: J7 D:20 P:17 Lose

Dl: 286K Pl: Q6 D:0 P:16 Win

Dl: 6466 Pl: 5Q D:0 P:15 Win

Dl: T9 Pl: Q63 D:19 P:19 Tie

Dl: J Pl: 94AAQ D:10 P:-1 Lose

Dl: KK Pl: A35 D:20 P:19 Lose

Dl: 2724Q Pl: 55d3 D:0 P:13 Win dbl

November 7th, 2015 at 3:20:46 PM
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I would agree this is what he wanted. Player plays basic strategy, playing 10,000 hands.

November 8th, 2015 at 1:25:31 AM
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yes, that is right. best be like wizard's way, of doing bacarrat:

500 computer generated baccarat shoes using eight decks. (1.2 MB)

Following are 1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes. The shoe contained eight decks and was dealt until the number of cards remaining in the shoe was less than 6. Following are the fields in each comma delimited record.

Shoe Number 1

B,9,7,4,0,5,7,0,x

B,8,7,4,1,3,8,3,6

B,8,6,0,8,x,0,6,x

P,2,8,0,2,x,4,4,x

B,5,3,4,1,x,0,4,9

P,0,2,9,1,0,2,0,0

T,8,8,0,8,x,9,9,x

B,3,2,2,0,1,6,6,0

P,0,6,7,5,8,6,0,x

P,8,9,6,2,x,0,9,x

T,0,0,0,0,0,9,5,6

B,9,6,4,9,6,1,5,x

B,7,1,7,0,x,0,0,1

T,7,7,0,7,x,1,0,6

B,9,8,9,0,x,0,8,x

B,6,2,4,6,6,2,0,0

P,1,7,0,0,1,7,0,x

B,2,0,8,2,2,0,2,8

B,8,6,2,1,5,5,9,2

B,8,2,7,1,x,9,3,x

B,4,0,4,0,x,4,6,0

B,8,6,2,2,4,7,9,x

P,6,8,0,6,x,3,5,x

P,0,8,7,3,0,1,9,8

B,9,0,2,7,x,0,0,x

P,6,7,0,0,6,0,7,x

B,7,3,9,8,x,9,5,9

B,9,7,5,4,x,0,7,x

T,8,8,3,5,x,2,6,x

B,7,5,8,9,x,5,0,0

T,6,6,7,9,x,0,6,x

B,9,4,8,1,x,0,4,x

B,7,4,0,7,x,0,4,0

B,9,6,0,9,x,0,6,x

B,9,6,3,1,5,0,2,4

P,4,8,6,8,x,0,8,x

B,7,6,7,0,x,0,6,x

B,7,6,0,7,x,8,8,x

B,9,0,9,0,x,0,0,x

P,2,6,2,0,0,3,0,3

P,4,6,1,3,0,6,0,x

T,2,2,5,8,9,0,3,9

B,9,3,9,0,x,0,3,x

P,4,6,8,4,2,8,8,x

P,6,7,0,6,x,2,0,5

B,9,6,2,3,4,1,0,5

B,8,6,0,8,x,4,2,x

B,7,5,4,3,x,7,5,3

P,1,7,7,4,0,7,0,x

B,6,2,0,0,6,0,1,1

P,3,8,8,5,x,1,7,x

B,5,2,6,6,3,5,0,7

P,3,5,2,8,3,6,9,0

P,4,6,8,6,x,5,0,1

B,9,5,0,0,9,4,1,0

B,7,2,9,8,x,0,0,2

P,0,9,3,7,x,0,9,x

P,7,8,8,9,x,1,0,7

B,5,4,0,5,0,6,4,4

P,0,9,0,0,x,8,1,x

B,6,4,4,2,x,0,3,1

P,2,9,1,0,1,0,2,7

P,0,5,6,4,0,5,0,0

T,6,6,3,3,x,6,0,x

T,0,0,0,0,0,7,3,0

B,9,0,4,5,x,4,6,x

P,1,5,0,1,0,0,0,5

B,9,3,9,5,5,8,3,2

P,5,6,0,5,0,2,4,x

P,3,9,6,7,x,3,6,x

P,3,6,1,2,0,8,4,4

B,8,7,9,2,7,0,7,x

B,9,5,0,1,8,0,5,0

P,5,6,0,0,5,8,7,1

B,5,0,3,2,0,0,3,7

B,8,7,3,0,5,7,0,x

B,7,4,4,0,3,9,3,2

P,3,8,3,0,x,8,0,x

P,6,9,9,7,x,4,5,x

B,7,6,7,0,x,3,2,1

P,0,8,0,0,x,8,0,x

T,3,3,2,0,1,3,0,0

B,6,4,5,1,x,5,0,9

Banker Wins = 44

Player Wins = 30

Tie Wins = 9

Shoe Number 2

B,9,6,4,0,5,0,1,5

B,5,1,3,8,4,3,2,6

P,0,7,5,5,0,2,1,4

...

500 shoes,

to analyse dragon 7. i used doc to have picked all dragon 7, actually.

,0,0,7,

,0,0,7,

,2,8,7,

,0,0,7,

,0,4,3,

,1,0,6,

,3,0,4,

,9,2,6,

,4,6,7,

,3,7,7,

,0,2,5,

,0,3,4,

,2,8,7,

,0,0,7,

,5,5,7,

,0,3,4,

,0,0,7,

,3,8,6,

,3,0,4,

,4,9,4,

,4,6,7,

,0,0,7,

,7,4,6,

,3,9,5,

,0,0,7,

,0,1,6,

,2,0,5,

,2,0,5,

,0,2,5,

,2,0,5,

,3,0,4,

,0,2,5,

,6,7,4,

,0,2,5,

,0,0,7,

,8,3,6,

,3,0,4,

,0,0,7,

,6,4,7,

,0,3,4,

,8,2,7,

,0,3,4,

,6,4,7,

,5,8,4,

,7,8,2,

,3,0,4,

,8,4,5,

,1,0,6,

,7,6,4,

,8,3,6,

,5,9,3,

,5,8,4,

,0,4,3,

,0,3,4,

,0,0,7,

,6,7,4,

...

for this blackjack data,

if it is like this, it is the best. then it is easy to be put them into excel...

maybe it is not free. i still am hopeful.

500 computer generated baccarat shoes using eight decks. (1.2 MB)

Following are 1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes. The shoe contained eight decks and was dealt until the number of cards remaining in the shoe was less than 6. Following are the fields in each comma delimited record.

Shoe Number 1

B,9,7,4,0,5,7,0,x

B,8,7,4,1,3,8,3,6

B,8,6,0,8,x,0,6,x

P,2,8,0,2,x,4,4,x

B,5,3,4,1,x,0,4,9

P,0,2,9,1,0,2,0,0

T,8,8,0,8,x,9,9,x

B,3,2,2,0,1,6,6,0

P,0,6,7,5,8,6,0,x

P,8,9,6,2,x,0,9,x

T,0,0,0,0,0,9,5,6

B,9,6,4,9,6,1,5,x

B,7,1,7,0,x,0,0,1

T,7,7,0,7,x,1,0,6

B,9,8,9,0,x,0,8,x

B,6,2,4,6,6,2,0,0

P,1,7,0,0,1,7,0,x

B,2,0,8,2,2,0,2,8

B,8,6,2,1,5,5,9,2

B,8,2,7,1,x,9,3,x

B,4,0,4,0,x,4,6,0

B,8,6,2,2,4,7,9,x

P,6,8,0,6,x,3,5,x

P,0,8,7,3,0,1,9,8

B,9,0,2,7,x,0,0,x

P,6,7,0,0,6,0,7,x

B,7,3,9,8,x,9,5,9

B,9,7,5,4,x,0,7,x

T,8,8,3,5,x,2,6,x

B,7,5,8,9,x,5,0,0

T,6,6,7,9,x,0,6,x

B,9,4,8,1,x,0,4,x

B,7,4,0,7,x,0,4,0

B,9,6,0,9,x,0,6,x

B,9,6,3,1,5,0,2,4

P,4,8,6,8,x,0,8,x

B,7,6,7,0,x,0,6,x

B,7,6,0,7,x,8,8,x

B,9,0,9,0,x,0,0,x

P,2,6,2,0,0,3,0,3

P,4,6,1,3,0,6,0,x

T,2,2,5,8,9,0,3,9

B,9,3,9,0,x,0,3,x

P,4,6,8,4,2,8,8,x

P,6,7,0,6,x,2,0,5

B,9,6,2,3,4,1,0,5

B,8,6,0,8,x,4,2,x

B,7,5,4,3,x,7,5,3

P,1,7,7,4,0,7,0,x

B,6,2,0,0,6,0,1,1

P,3,8,8,5,x,1,7,x

B,5,2,6,6,3,5,0,7

P,3,5,2,8,3,6,9,0

P,4,6,8,6,x,5,0,1

B,9,5,0,0,9,4,1,0

B,7,2,9,8,x,0,0,2

P,0,9,3,7,x,0,9,x

P,7,8,8,9,x,1,0,7

B,5,4,0,5,0,6,4,4

P,0,9,0,0,x,8,1,x

B,6,4,4,2,x,0,3,1

P,2,9,1,0,1,0,2,7

P,0,5,6,4,0,5,0,0

T,6,6,3,3,x,6,0,x

T,0,0,0,0,0,7,3,0

B,9,0,4,5,x,4,6,x

P,1,5,0,1,0,0,0,5

B,9,3,9,5,5,8,3,2

P,5,6,0,5,0,2,4,x

P,3,9,6,7,x,3,6,x

P,3,6,1,2,0,8,4,4

B,8,7,9,2,7,0,7,x

B,9,5,0,1,8,0,5,0

P,5,6,0,0,5,8,7,1

B,5,0,3,2,0,0,3,7

B,8,7,3,0,5,7,0,x

B,7,4,4,0,3,9,3,2

P,3,8,3,0,x,8,0,x

P,6,9,9,7,x,4,5,x

B,7,6,7,0,x,3,2,1

P,0,8,0,0,x,8,0,x

T,3,3,2,0,1,3,0,0

B,6,4,5,1,x,5,0,9

Banker Wins = 44

Player Wins = 30

Tie Wins = 9

Shoe Number 2

B,9,6,4,0,5,0,1,5

B,5,1,3,8,4,3,2,6

P,0,7,5,5,0,2,1,4

...

500 shoes,

to analyse dragon 7. i used doc to have picked all dragon 7, actually.

,0,0,7,

,0,0,7,

,2,8,7,

,0,0,7,

,0,4,3,

,1,0,6,

,3,0,4,

,9,2,6,

,4,6,7,

,3,7,7,

,0,2,5,

,0,3,4,

,2,8,7,

,0,0,7,

,5,5,7,

,0,3,4,

,0,0,7,

,3,8,6,

,3,0,4,

,4,9,4,

,4,6,7,

,0,0,7,

,7,4,6,

,3,9,5,

,0,0,7,

,0,1,6,

,2,0,5,

,2,0,5,

,0,2,5,

,2,0,5,

,3,0,4,

,0,2,5,

,6,7,4,

,0,2,5,

,0,0,7,

,8,3,6,

,3,0,4,

,0,0,7,

,6,4,7,

,0,3,4,

,8,2,7,

,0,3,4,

,6,4,7,

,5,8,4,

,7,8,2,

,3,0,4,

,8,4,5,

,1,0,6,

,7,6,4,

,8,3,6,

,5,9,3,

,5,8,4,

,0,4,3,

,0,3,4,

,0,0,7,

,6,7,4,

...

for this blackjack data,

if it is like this, it is the best. then it is easy to be put them into excel...

maybe it is not free. i still am hopeful.