tomchina123
Joined: Aug 26, 2015
• Posts: 173
November 6th, 2015 at 6:59:50 AM permalink
can anyone help with blackjack simulation card/win-lose data? i have a friend, who asked me for this.

it can be CSM or manually.
it is like this:

player wins: player: 6,7,8, dealer: 8,5,T.
dealer wins: Player: 4,6, double, 5 dealer: 6,7,5
.....

at least 10000, hands.

i cannot find them in wizardofodds, i can only find baccarat data:
Following are 1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes. The shoe contained six decks and was dealt until the number of cards remaining in the shoe was less than 6. Following are the fields in each comma delimited record.

Field 1: Winning outcome (P = Player win, B = Banker win, T = Tie win)
Field 2: Point value of banker hand
Field 3: Point value of player hand
Field 4: Point value of banker's first card
Field 5: Point value of banker's second card
Field 6: Point value of banker's third card if taken, x otherwise
Field 7: Point value of player's first card
Field 8: Point value of player's second card
Field 9: Point value of player's third card if taken, x otherwise

Shoe Number 1

B,9,1,0,9,x,1,0,x
P,2,7,4,8,0,0,5,2
B,6,2,6,0,x,0,0,2
P,0,6,0,0,0,0,6,x
B,7,0,1,4,2,3,2,5
P,0,9,6,4,x,0,9,x
B,8,6,2,6,x,1,5,x
P,0,4,2,8,0,0,1,3
P,3,7,9,4,0,4,0,3
T,4,4,4,6,4,1,0,3
B,9,5,2,7,x,1,4,x
P,8,9,4,4,x,0,9,x
P,0,4,0,0,0,1,3,0
P,4,9,9,5,x,5,4,x
B,8,6,4,6,8,0,6,x
B,3,0,1,0,2,2,1,7
B,9,6,8,1,x,8,8,x
B,9,7,9,0,x,2,5,x
T,2,2,8,4,0,7,5,0
P,2,4,8,4,0,0,0,4
P,5,7,2,3,x,4,0,3
P,6,9,7,9,x,2,7,x
P,0,8,5,5,x,0,8,x
P,6,7,6,0,x,2,5,x
B,7,2,0,7,x,0,0,2
B,8,5,2,6,x,7,8,x
B,9,5,0,9,x,8,7,x
B,8,5,0,8,x,4,1,x
P,8,9,7,1,x,0,9,x
B,6,3,9,7,x,9,4,0
P,1,9,1,0,x,9,0,x
B,9,2,6,3,x,2,0,x
B,7,6,3,4,x,6,7,3
P,0,3,0,0,0,6,7,0
P,2,5,3,9,0,0,0,5
P,2,8,2,0,x,8,0,x
B,8,1,1,7,x,0,1,x
P,8,9,0,8,x,2,7,x
B,4,3,0,1,3,0,3,0
B,9,6,0,9,x,6,0,x
B,8,2,0,0,8,9,5,8
B,9,5,0,0,9,2,0,3
B,5,0,0,5,x,0,0,0
P,4,7,0,3,1,7,0,x
B,9,7,5,5,9,1,6,x
P,7,9,7,0,x,4,8,7
B,8,0,1,7,x,5,5,x
B,8,2,8,0,x,0,2,x
B,9,1,3,6,x,3,8,x
B,6,5,0,6,x,5,0,0
T,7,7,1,6,x,8,3,6
B,9,6,6,3,x,5,1,x
B,8,5,5,3,x,5,0,x
B,7,0,7,5,5,0,0,0
P,0,5,5,9,6,2,0,3
B,7,6,7,0,x,6,0,x
T,3,3,7,7,9,9,2,2
P,0,9,0,0,0,6,6,7
B,3,1,2,1,0,7,4,0
P,2,8,9,3,x,0,8,x
B,9,7,0,9,x,9,8,x
B,8,0,4,4,x,1,9,x
T,8,8,8,0,x,0,8,x
P,3,7,0,3,0,0,1,6

Banker Wins = 34
Player Wins = 25
Tie Wins = 5

Shoe Number 2

P,4,8,0,4,x,4,4,x
B,5,2,6,8,1,0,0,2
B,9,5,0,0,9,7,3,5
P,3,7,0,0,3,0,0,7
B,6,0,7,9,x,4,7,9
P,5,7,0,0,5,8,2,7
B,9,7,4,5,x,5,2,x
B,9,0,1,2,6,1,9,0
P,1,8,0,1,x,2,6,x
B,9,4,0,9,x,0,4,x
B,7,6,7,0,x,2,0,4
......
tomchina123
Joined: Aug 26, 2015
• Posts: 173
November 6th, 2015 at 7:15:12 PM permalink
hi, Romes,

are u there?

it is well known that you know everything about blackjack.

can u help with up needed?
UCivan
Joined: Sep 3, 2011
• Posts: 722
November 6th, 2015 at 7:35:16 PM permalink

A Similar Request on WOO
tomchina123
Joined: Aug 26, 2015
• Posts: 173
November 7th, 2015 at 9:14:18 AM permalink
maybe.

i guess there is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free.

like Wizard and Romes.

especially Romes, he is so powerful and an expert in blackjack.

hi, Romes,

will u take this challenge?
charliepatrick
Joined: Jun 17, 2011
• Posts: 1296
November 7th, 2015 at 12:23:11 PM permalink
Quote: tomchina123

...is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free...

There are probably quite a few who could generate this type of info - but not necessarily for free. Remember some people here make a living for providing advice on gaming and have probably developed simulators as part of their work. The other thing, only based on info I have seen, is that these things are either to confirm House Edge, countability issues or used during the initial design of a game. I'm guessing they typically only look at one hand versus the dealer - certainly that's all I've done.
ThatDonGuy
Joined: Jun 22, 2011
• Posts: 2933
November 7th, 2015 at 2:32:04 PM permalink
Quote: tomchina123

i guess there is some one in this forum, who is smart and generous, and hard working, and will publish it for free.

Why is everybody looking at me like that?

I'm confused as to what the original post wants. Does he (assuming a male) want 10,000 hands dealt out and shown card-by-card, with notes as to when the player doubled (and, presumably, split)?

Note that this would require some assumptions as to what strategy to use.
Ibeatyouraces
Joined: Jan 12, 2010
• Posts: 10554
November 7th, 2015 at 2:37:34 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Why is everybody looking at me like that?

I'm confused as to what the original post wants. Does he (assuming a male) want 10,000 hands dealt out and shown card-by-card, with notes as to when the player doubled (and, presumably, split)?

Note that this would require some assumptions as to what strategy to use.

He confused you with Don S. on BJTF.
"And that's the bottom lineeeee, cuz Stone Cold said so!"
charliepatrick
Joined: Jun 17, 2011
• Posts: 1296
November 7th, 2015 at 2:50:36 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

....Does he (assuming a male) want 10,000 hands dealt out and shown card-by-card, with notes as to when the player doubled (and, presumably, split)?...

Who knows? Perhaps something like this....
`Dl: T55 Pl: 7T D:20 P:17 LoseDl: T9 Pl: 89 D:19 P:17 LoseDl: 7K Pl: 233532 D:17 P:18 WinDl: 967 Pl: J52 D:0 P:17 WinDl: T Pl: 75T D:10 P:-1 LoseDl: 9J Pl: T7 D:19 P:17 LoseDl: A7 Pl: 669 D:18 P:21 WinDl: 46T Pl: 66/Q (6)8 D:20 P:16 Lose P:14 LoseDl: 4Q7 Pl: 56dJ D:21 P:21 Tie dblDl: Q Pl: 448T D:10 P:-1 LoseDl: 676 Pl: 44/5d3 (4)T D:19 P:12 Lose dbl P:14 LoseDl: 9K Pl: TT D:19 P:20 WinDl: AT Pl: 9A D:111 P:20 LoseDl: 598 Pl: TT D:0 P:20 WinDl: 7725 Pl: KK D:21 P:20 LoseDl: 5K5 Pl: 4Ad5 D:20 P:20 Tie dblDl: KJ Pl: J7 D:20 P:17 LoseDl: 286K Pl: Q6 D:0 P:16 WinDl: 6466 Pl: 5Q D:0 P:15 WinDl: T9 Pl: Q63 D:19 P:19 TieDl: J Pl: 94AAQ D:10 P:-1 LoseDl: KK Pl: A35 D:20 P:19 LoseDl: 2724Q Pl: 55d3 D:0 P:13 Win dbl`
UCivan
Joined: Sep 3, 2011
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November 7th, 2015 at 3:20:46 PM permalink
I would agree this is what he wanted. Player plays basic strategy, playing 10,000 hands.
tomchina123
Joined: Aug 26, 2015
• Posts: 173
November 8th, 2015 at 1:25:31 AM permalink
yes, that is right. best be like wizard's way, of doing bacarrat:

500 computer generated baccarat shoes using eight decks. (1.2 MB)

Following are 1000 randomly generated baccarat shoes. The shoe contained eight decks and was dealt until the number of cards remaining in the shoe was less than 6. Following are the fields in each comma delimited record.

Shoe Number 1
B,9,7,4,0,5,7,0,x
B,8,7,4,1,3,8,3,6
B,8,6,0,8,x,0,6,x
P,2,8,0,2,x,4,4,x
B,5,3,4,1,x,0,4,9
P,0,2,9,1,0,2,0,0
T,8,8,0,8,x,9,9,x
B,3,2,2,0,1,6,6,0
P,0,6,7,5,8,6,0,x
P,8,9,6,2,x,0,9,x
T,0,0,0,0,0,9,5,6
B,9,6,4,9,6,1,5,x
B,7,1,7,0,x,0,0,1
T,7,7,0,7,x,1,0,6
B,9,8,9,0,x,0,8,x
B,6,2,4,6,6,2,0,0
P,1,7,0,0,1,7,0,x
B,2,0,8,2,2,0,2,8
B,8,6,2,1,5,5,9,2
B,8,2,7,1,x,9,3,x
B,4,0,4,0,x,4,6,0
B,8,6,2,2,4,7,9,x
P,6,8,0,6,x,3,5,x
P,0,8,7,3,0,1,9,8
B,9,0,2,7,x,0,0,x
P,6,7,0,0,6,0,7,x
B,7,3,9,8,x,9,5,9
B,9,7,5,4,x,0,7,x
T,8,8,3,5,x,2,6,x
B,7,5,8,9,x,5,0,0
T,6,6,7,9,x,0,6,x
B,9,4,8,1,x,0,4,x
B,7,4,0,7,x,0,4,0
B,9,6,0,9,x,0,6,x
B,9,6,3,1,5,0,2,4
P,4,8,6,8,x,0,8,x
B,7,6,7,0,x,0,6,x
B,7,6,0,7,x,8,8,x
B,9,0,9,0,x,0,0,x
P,2,6,2,0,0,3,0,3
P,4,6,1,3,0,6,0,x
T,2,2,5,8,9,0,3,9
B,9,3,9,0,x,0,3,x
P,4,6,8,4,2,8,8,x
P,6,7,0,6,x,2,0,5
B,9,6,2,3,4,1,0,5
B,8,6,0,8,x,4,2,x
B,7,5,4,3,x,7,5,3
P,1,7,7,4,0,7,0,x
B,6,2,0,0,6,0,1,1
P,3,8,8,5,x,1,7,x
B,5,2,6,6,3,5,0,7
P,3,5,2,8,3,6,9,0
P,4,6,8,6,x,5,0,1
B,9,5,0,0,9,4,1,0
B,7,2,9,8,x,0,0,2
P,0,9,3,7,x,0,9,x
P,7,8,8,9,x,1,0,7
B,5,4,0,5,0,6,4,4
P,0,9,0,0,x,8,1,x
B,6,4,4,2,x,0,3,1
P,2,9,1,0,1,0,2,7
P,0,5,6,4,0,5,0,0
T,6,6,3,3,x,6,0,x
T,0,0,0,0,0,7,3,0
B,9,0,4,5,x,4,6,x
P,1,5,0,1,0,0,0,5
B,9,3,9,5,5,8,3,2
P,5,6,0,5,0,2,4,x
P,3,9,6,7,x,3,6,x
P,3,6,1,2,0,8,4,4
B,8,7,9,2,7,0,7,x
B,9,5,0,1,8,0,5,0
P,5,6,0,0,5,8,7,1
B,5,0,3,2,0,0,3,7
B,8,7,3,0,5,7,0,x
B,7,4,4,0,3,9,3,2
P,3,8,3,0,x,8,0,x
P,6,9,9,7,x,4,5,x
B,7,6,7,0,x,3,2,1
P,0,8,0,0,x,8,0,x
T,3,3,2,0,1,3,0,0
B,6,4,5,1,x,5,0,9

Banker Wins = 44
Player Wins = 30
Tie Wins = 9

Shoe Number 2

B,9,6,4,0,5,0,1,5
B,5,1,3,8,4,3,2,6
P,0,7,5,5,0,2,1,4
...

500 shoes,

to analyse dragon 7. i used doc to have picked all dragon 7, actually.

,0,0,7,
,0,0,7,
,2,8,7,
,0,0,7,
,0,4,3,
,1,0,6,
,3,0,4,
,9,2,6,
,4,6,7,
,3,7,7,
,0,2,5,
,0,3,4,
,2,8,7,
,0,0,7,
,5,5,7,
,0,3,4,
,0,0,7,
,3,8,6,
,3,0,4,
,4,9,4,
,4,6,7,
,0,0,7,
,7,4,6,
,3,9,5,
,0,0,7,
,0,1,6,
,2,0,5,
,2,0,5,
,0,2,5,
,2,0,5,
,3,0,4,
,0,2,5,
,6,7,4,
,0,2,5,
,0,0,7,
,8,3,6,
,3,0,4,
,0,0,7,
,6,4,7,
,0,3,4,
,8,2,7,
,0,3,4,
,6,4,7,
,5,8,4,
,7,8,2,
,3,0,4,
,8,4,5,
,1,0,6,
,7,6,4,
,8,3,6,
,5,9,3,
,5,8,4,
,0,4,3,
,0,3,4,
,0,0,7,
,6,7,4,
...

for this blackjack data,
if it is like this, it is the best. then it is easy to be put them into excel...

maybe it is not free. i still am hopeful.