sodawater
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April 22nd, 2015 at 2:21:45 PM permalink
Quote: TedM

thanks sodawater, I guess I could go elsewhere but I think just knowing that I was wrongly accused is just irking me. Man you are making me miss the rooms and that Amphora Lounge now...wish I would've eaten there last time if I knew I might never be allowed back. Do you think it is worth me trying to get my privileges back?



If you really are just playing blackjack without counting, maybe offer to give them some play at other games where they can be sure you have no edge.

The Borgata 6D game with no counting is not that good. You would do as well betting $25-$500 at baccarat or craps. If it's really important to you to get the Borgata amenities, maybe write/call a table games executive and offer to play other games in return for your My Borgata Rewards back.
Ibeatyouraces
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April 22nd, 2015 at 2:37:38 PM permalink
Comps are supposed to be a reward for putting in action. Wins or losses really shouldn't have to do anything with it.
"And that's the bottom lineeeee, cuz Stone Cold said so!"
TwoFeathersATL
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April 22nd, 2015 at 3:25:45 PM permalink
I posted the question of 'could you be banned just for winning' a month or so ago. The consensus opinion seemed to be a definate "no". Now I read this story.... Lifetime, yea, I'm still a loser at BJ. If you added my tips and comps back in then I become a lifetime winner ( by a little bit ). I have noticed that some of the entities that used to offer me huge comps have gotten very quiet lately. I don't count cards either. I'm not sure how to continue to be perceived as a 'sucker'. One would think that the 9K I dropped a couple of weeks ago would help.... But it's way too quiet...2F
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
Avincow
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April 22nd, 2015 at 3:49:43 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

If you really are just playing blackjack without counting, maybe offer to give them some play at other games where they can be sure you have no edge.

The Borgata 6D game with no counting is not that good. You would do as well betting $25-$500 at baccarat or craps. If it's really important to you to get the Borgata amenities, maybe write/call a table games executive and offer to play other games in return for your My Borgata Rewards back.



If they think he's a counter, sure they will let him play baccarat and carps. But i don't think that will get him back on the blackjack tables. once they made up their mind, they made up their mind.

I think a formal letter requesting video review of his previous play is the only way to get reinstated. Has this ever worked before? Not that I have ever heard of, but it seems like a logical solution. However, if there was any logical thought processes going on at the Borgata, none of this would have ever happened in the first place.
sodawater
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April 22nd, 2015 at 4:20:56 PM permalink
Quote: Avincow

If they think he's a counter, sure they will let him play baccarat and carps. But i don't think that will get him back on the blackjack tables. once they made up their mind, they made up their mind.

I think a formal letter requesting video review of his previous play is the only way to get reinstated. Has this ever worked before? Not that I have ever heard of, but it seems like a logical solution. However, if there was any logical thought processes going on at the Borgata, none of this would have ever happened in the first place.



What are you talking about? The OP is upset because they took his rooms and comps away. He still is allowed to play blackjack. He is just not getting any comps. Playing other table games in exchange for comps is a possible solution.
mrfrancks
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April 22nd, 2015 at 4:26:56 PM permalink
Given what you are describing, it is really surprising that Borgata would take such action even if your were counting. An occasional 20:1 spread (even if it was coincident with a high count) is not going to beat that game (and they know that). A top bet of $500 and a top win of $5000 should not have put you on their radar. If you're really interested in getting this reversed I would recommend sending a letter to the CEO of Borgata laying out your case in a firm and businesslike manner. Don't disparage them but don't grovel either. Emphasize your long history of play. Ask to have your comps restored and your status and offers reinstated. I would suggest sending the letter using FedEx or some other overnight delivery service. That will make sure that it gets noticed and responded to promptly.

I have done this in the past when I have had issues with a casino and have always gotten positive results. Good Luck.
sabre
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April 22nd, 2015 at 5:00:34 PM permalink
I'm stunned at the number of people suggesting you write a letter. The Borgata thinks you're a counter. They aren't going to change their minds. Move on.
zoobrew
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April 22nd, 2015 at 5:12:45 PM permalink
For all the people telling you to move on, I guess they are okay with being be banned from the Ritz and now finding Holiday Inn as an acceptable replacement.
sabre
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April 22nd, 2015 at 7:48:20 PM permalink
Quote: zoobrew

For all the people telling you to move on, I guess they are okay with being be banned from the Ritz and now finding Holiday Inn as an acceptable replacement.



No, they're just realistic that the Ritz isn't letting you back.
darkoz
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April 22nd, 2015 at 8:38:40 PM permalink
I agree letter writing will probably not help.

What I would do, personally, is inform some gambling newsmen or even just local papers. It might not be front page news but gamblers being mistreated because they are mistaken as card counters might be considered newsworthy.

It may embarrass them or hurt their business to have negative publicity which will be at least a good feeling of revenge.

It will probably get you heard quicker than any letter you may send.

Making such a stink that you are not a card counter may have them reverse their decision and if not, hey, you still got that revenge.

Finally, upon hearing the way you were treated and that you aren't a counter, you may find some quite pleasant offers from their competition.

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