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August 2nd, 2014 at 12:28:46 PM permalink
Just returned from a pretty cool 30-minute stint at Kasino Reeperbahn. 8 decks, 1.5 cut out, S17, 3:2, DOA, DAS. Split aces get exactly one card. The dealer does get a hole card. If her top card is a 10 or Ace, she won't check it until the round is up (so, essentially, that means European No Hole Card). There's a side-bet called "twins" which pays you money if you get two cards of the same value.

The different things:
THE GOOD
You can bet on other players' hands. I found this immensely useful. At high counts, just place your money down on the two seats adjacent to yours. No one will bat an eye. Also, half the cards have a black back and half are red. Can that be used somehow????
The shuffle is quite sloppy. PM me if you want details.

THE BAD
Upon entry, they check ID and charge you a 1 Euro cover. There are only two tables. It's Friday night, so 5 Eur min, 500 max. Otherwise, it's 2 Eur min. The game is on the slower side. It's CROWDED. The other casinos on the strip are slots only, so this is the only BJ I found on Reeperbahn. Non alcoholic drinks free; I'm not sure about alcohol. There are two Euro roulette wheels in the same space (no "En-prison" rule), and a poker room upstairs.
Doubling is weird - they place your money on top of your bet instead of beside.
You are only in control of the hand that you are "first bettor" on. What happens to your money on other players' slots if you play them is up to how those players play their hands. You can't force them to hit if they choose to stand. However, if they choose to double you don't have to (I correctly chose to not double 11 vs 10, as per Euro BS). If they split, I don't know -- hasn't happened but I may post again if I go back.
Also, when you come out, be prepared to be swarmed by hookers. Some are pretty, but in general very aggressive.

EDIT
I was so totally wrong about the decks -- 6 decks. And the new dealer (about 2 hours later) was cutting one out. Very countable. But man -- people behind you reaching over to make bets on your spots, armpits in your face, people playing two tables at once ... eugh. Downright nasty, especially on a super hot night like today. As for splits, you can choose to split but are not required to -- you keep the first hand.
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August 2nd, 2014 at 1:11:57 PM permalink
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. You can't force them to hit if they choose to stand. However, if they choose to double you don't have to (I correctly chose to not double 11 vs 10, as per Euro BS).



Sooooo... you have an 11..... and the person in charge doubles but you do not..... he draws a 3..... and now you are required to stand on your 14 versus a 10? Explain to me how this is good for you?
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August 2nd, 2014 at 1:14:48 PM permalink
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Also, when you come out, be prepared to be swarmed by hookers. Some are pretty, but in general very aggressive.



No doubt. Reeperbahm is the red light
district of Hamburg. A review from
TripAdvisor:

All I see is Bars, Sex shops and Casinos. (I've been to vegas so this is nothing) Am thinking okay, lets go for a walk see what I can find. So I walk up the street and cross the road, BIG MISTAKE. Here I encounter my first prostitute. Now in Berlin if a prostitute approaches you, a smile and a Nein Danka is enough for them to leave you alone. Not here though. I was grabbed and offered all sorts, I was very polite and a no thanks. As I walk away, another, then another then another then another then another…Constantly for the entire length of the street, they are all standing 20 feet apart and know fine well I am not interesting so they are basically just f-----g with me at this point, Then one grabs me and this is when I lose my patience and tell her to go away in quite an unpolite fashion. I left the area rather promptly and left me with bad experience. Horrible horrible experience
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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August 2nd, 2014 at 3:12:23 PM permalink
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Sooooo... you have an 11..... and the person in charge doubles but you do not..... he draws a 3..... and now you are required to stand on your 14 versus a 10? Explain to me how this is good for you?



That's a good point. You can't do anything. Interesting conundrum - should you double if the guy does? I still think the answer is no. The reason you don't double 11 v 10 is because of the risk of dealer BJ.
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August 2nd, 2014 at 10:18:09 PM permalink
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That's a good point. You can't do anything. Interesting conundrum - should you double if the guy does? I still think the answer is no. The reason you don't double 11 v 10 is because of the risk of dealer BJ.



Without going through the numbers, I'm pretty sure that it's correct to double if you can only hit once. I could definitely be wrong on that though.
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June 14th, 2017 at 12:55:52 AM permalink
Trip Report - Just visited here for a quick pitstop. 1/2 hr tops. Interesting city. Admission fee of 1 euro which I made back in 50 cent machine roulette. Actually had a nice streak. went from 10 euros to max of 24 euroes betting conservatively covering 2/3rds of the board with only 50 cent bets. Cashed out with 15 euros minus the admission fee for a profit of 4 euros. Light entertainment. Beware, Kasino Reeperbahn is located in the heart of the Red Light District. Its not the seediest casino by far at all, but when you walk out......watch where you step. LOL.

The Gambling

Blackjack - Dealer has a face card and does not check for blackjack. Players continue placing their bets, doubling, splitting etc. Only at the conclusion, does the dealer check his hole card. Is this right?????????????????

Mins were 5 euro and only one BJ table was open.

Roulette - You can choose from an electronic roulette machine upstairs for a min of 50 cents or a live croupier downstairs for a min of 5 euros. Very few people tonight surprisingly. I guess they were attending to other needs =)

Small number of old slot machines on each floor. Brands and themes were completely unrecognizable to me.
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June 14th, 2017 at 6:18:44 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Sooooo... you have an 11..... and the person in charge doubles but you do not..... he draws a 3..... and now you are required to stand on your 14 versus a 10? Explain to me how this is good for you?



What is good about back betting is if the front player splits you have the option to not go along with it and play out just one of the two hands. This is great for splitting eights.
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June 14th, 2017 at 9:08:47 AM permalink
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Also, half the cards have a black back and half are red. Can that be used somehow????



I doubt it... Fancy casinos have been using mixed decks for Baccarat and other table games for decades. I think if it were possible to exploit something like that someone would have figured it out by now. Maybe the only way it would work is that you would have to keep track of two counts, one for one color of card and one for the other color?? That sounds like it would be super hard to do on the fly as they're dealing and not worth the effort for what would probably amount to a fraction of a fraction of a percent advantage.
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June 16th, 2017 at 6:48:45 AM permalink
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Also, half the cards have a black back and half are red. Can that be used somehow????

If they hand shuffle.. yes.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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February 1st, 2024 at 2:32:17 PM permalink
Quote: arcticfun

Just returned from a pretty cool 30-minute stint at Kasino Reeperbahn. 8 decks, 1.5 cut out, S17, 3:2, DOA, DAS. Split aces get exactly one card. The dealer does get a hole card. If her top card is a 10 or Ace, she won't check it until the round is up (so, essentially, that means European No Hole Card). There's a side-bet called "twins" which pays you money if you get two cards of the same value.

The different things:
THE GOOD
You can bet on other players' hands. I found this immensely useful. At high counts, just place your money down on the two seats adjacent to yours. No one will bat an eye. Also, half the cards have a black back and half are red. Can that be used somehow????
The shuffle is quite sloppy. PM me if you want details.

THE BAD
Upon entry, they check ID and charge you a 1 Euro cover. There are only two tables. It's Friday night, so 5 Eur min, 500 max. Otherwise, it's 2 Eur min. The game is on the slower side. It's CROWDED. The other casinos on the strip are slots only, so this is the only BJ I found on Reeperbahn. Non alcoholic drinks free; I'm not sure about alcohol. There are two Euro roulette wheels in the same space (no "En-prison" rule), and a poker room upstairs.
Doubling is weird - they place your money on top of your bet instead of beside.
You are only in control of the hand that you are "first bettor" on. What happens to your money on other players' slots if you play them is up to how those players play their hands. You can't force them to hit if they choose to stand. However, if they choose to double you don't have to (I correctly chose to not double 11 vs 10, as per Euro BS). If they split, I don't know -- hasn't happened but I may post again if I go back.
Also, when you come out, be prepared to be swarmed by hookers. Some are pretty, but in general very aggressive.

EDIT
I was so totally wrong about the decks -- 6 decks. And the new dealer (about 2 hours later) was cutting one out. Very countable. But man -- people behind you reaching over to make bets on your spots, armpits in your face, people playing two tables at once ... eugh. Downright nasty, especially on a super hot night like today. As for splits, you can choose to split but are not required to -- you keep the first hand.
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Is this game still available in 2024? Any insight are greatly appreciated!
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