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$100 bonus with 30 blackjacks at Tuscany Casino in Vegas.
| May 2nd, 2010 at 12:24:19 PM permalink | |
| pacomartin Member since: Jan 14, 2010 Threads: 547 Posts: 6220 | Back to the promotion. In a Vegas where blackjack has dropped 34% in revenue in the last 28 months that casino must have a valid reason to offer a slight player advantage game. Maybe it sells a few dozen extra hotel rooms per month. Maybe it attracts locals who also buy dinner. Maybe some of the guests try out the promotion, and then simply run out of hours or energy to make it to the 30 blackjacks. Maybe they consider it an effective way to increase their database. Sometimes people ask about getting a giant suite for a reunion. They don't realize how expensive suites are in Vegas. I suggest Tuscany because the rooms are large and inexpensive. That way they can afford a bunch of rooms, and the rooms are big enough so that they can gather and drink and talk. Wine loved I deeply, dice dearly -Edgar, betrayed son of Gloucester in King Lear |
| May 2nd, 2010 at 1:05:27 PM permalink | |
| ahiromu Member since: Jan 15, 2010 Threads: 56 Posts: 552 |
He was overbetting reasonably often. The minimum was $5, I forget if they let you play two hands at the same time. |
| May 11th, 2010 at 1:40:19 PM permalink | |
| Robmorrow Member since: May 1, 2010 Threads: 5 Posts: 41 | Hi, I was there on Sunday night, but they raised the minimum to $15 now for the promo. They said they just raised it from $10 last week, and previously was just $5. I asked if it was too busy at the lower limits, and they said it wasn't but just management decision. It was fairly quiet when I was there with 3 blackjack tables open, and I was just playing with one other player, and played 2 hands at a time for $15 each. I played for about 2 1/2 hours, and reached my goal of getting 15 blackjacks, so I can get the rest the next visit. That's about what's expected, and I am ahead of the dealer blackjacks of 8 while I was there. I am up $485 while I was there as I had a good run before the cards turned sour the last shoe. If I wasn't flat betting purely for the promotion, I would have easily been up over a grand. |
| May 11th, 2010 at 4:55:33 PM permalink | |
| nyuhoosier Member since: Feb 16, 2010 Threads: 31 Posts: 248 |
I wrote to complain to the casino manager about this change. My email and his response are below. Can anyone tell me if the figure I quoted (8 hours) is correct? Mr. Angelo: A recent post on a Vegas forum online says Tuscany has upped the minimum required bet to $15 for its blackjack promotion. I just wanted to express my disappointment in this change, if it is true. I never had a chance to take advantage of the promotion, and doubt I will be able to now. The amount of time necessary to receive 30 blackjacks (I'm told about 8 hours of continuous play) seems unreasonable at $15/hand, when the promotion still offers only $100. I would urge you to consider reinstituting a level of play that is attainable for locals as well as tourists (or giving locals a pass on the higher minimum). Although the change might seem small, it means the difference between a person such as me being in the casino three times a week over the next few weeks in pursuit of the promotion, and being priced out. Thanks for reading my letter. Hi [name], in response to your e-mail on the blackjack blackout promotion, I'm not sure where you received your information on how long it takes to complete the blackout card we've seen players complete the card in less than four hours. Also you have thirty days in which to complete the card, I hope you understand this is not a task that is unreachable with that much time. I THANKYOU for your letter it's good to hear feedback from our customers, hope you can give it try and win some money! Thankyou Jimmy |
| May 11th, 2010 at 5:54:27 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 313 Posts: 6786 |
My game comparison page lists blackjack at 70 (corrected) hands per hour. Assuming any blackjack will do (including ties), the probability per hand is 4.75%. So the expected blackjacks per hour is 70 × 0.0475 = 3.32. The expected time to get 30 blackjacks, playing one hand at a time, is 9.02 hours. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| May 11th, 2010 at 6:38:04 PM permalink | |
| nyuhoosier Member since: Feb 16, 2010 Threads: 31 Posts: 248 | Wiz, did you mean to say 70 hands per hour? The table at the bottom of the page has 70. |
| May 11th, 2010 at 8:28:15 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 14, 2009 Threads: 313 Posts: 6786 |
Doh! I just went back and corrected it, thanks. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. |
| May 11th, 2010 at 8:37:47 PM permalink | |
| Melman Member since: Apr 12, 2010 Threads: 3 Posts: 59 |
Wow. That makes the free golf shirt I got at the Fremont for 15 blackjacks in a 24-hour period, sound pretty crappy in comparison. |
| May 11th, 2010 at 8:37:57 PM permalink | |
| rudeboyoi Member since: Mar 28, 2010 Threads: 17 Posts: 577 | what does the 48 hands/hr in craps mean? is that 48 passline decisions resolved? |
| May 12th, 2010 at 4:42:52 AM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4834 | Yes. I would quite agree with that statement, although some people might place great value on some particularly humorous or impressive shirt. The main difference is that the Fremont is Downtown and Tuscany Resorts is Off-Strip although its a variable distance off-strip depending upon sex, age, time of day, etc. I wonder if a bus ride or cab ride, given the time and expense, would really have changed your mind on which promotion you would choose? If you are staying downtown the trek to Tuscany makes the promotion of little real value. If you are within a few blocks of Tuscany, then yes... by all means its worth the trek. If you happen to live in Las Vegas then it becomes even more of an easy decision for you. I think this is a promotion that is attractive but not stupendously so. Its a very subtle way of raising table limits in an effective manner but its not enough to induce me to buy an airline ticket. |
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