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aceofspades
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November 3rd, 2013 at 5:34:27 PM permalink
I just received this - super excited!!! This could be just what the doctor ordered for an end of the year bonus!!!










FYI - the "auto qualifiers" for the $500k bonus hand are those persons who were invited that have either (a) lost $150k in any one visit to Aria or MGM Grand in calendar year 2013 or (b) aggregate losses of $300k or more at Aria or MGM Grand in calendar year 2013)
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November 3rd, 2013 at 5:50:44 PM permalink
Wow, ace. Is there an entry fee, or did only people who "auto qualify" get invited? Biggest tournament I ever got an invite to was $100K, and it wasn't winner-take-all.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 5:52:07 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Wow, ace. Is there an entry fee, or did only people who "auto qualify" get invited? Biggest tournament I ever got an invite to was $100K, and it wasn't winner-take-all.





Babs - it is invitation only - no fee. As for the auto qualifiers...that only applies to the special $500k bonus after the tournament is over.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 5:59:32 PM permalink
Will Evenbob be invited as your coach ?
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:00:13 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Will Evenbob be invited as your coach ?






Yeah - and you can be my cut man
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:03:19 PM permalink
How is the $500k won? Usually, it's a suited BJ on that one hand or some other equally difficultly achieved hand...
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:13:44 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

How is the $500k won? Usually, it's a suited BJ on that one hand or some other equally difficultly achieved hand...





The invitation did not say. It just states one hand versus the dealer. As I get more details I will let you all in on it. I am more concerned with the $250k tournament prize than the $500k bonus (which may or may not hinge upon some outrageous hand as you stated)
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:15:15 PM permalink
DAMN Can't do it ACES. December 21st longest night of the year. My anniversary. Would go, but well Josie says the 45th is special. SIGH
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:29:29 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

DAMN Can't do it ACES. December 21st longest night of the year. My anniversary. Would go, but well Josie says the 45th is special. SIGH



*ahem* Too special to spend in VEGAS? It's the specialest place on earth! What better place to spend an anniversary. Plus, you could watch Ace on the 21st and watch Mission a couple days later. Nothing says 45th anniversary like watching a guy shove McNuggets in his face for an hour:-)
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Will Evenbob be invited as your coach ?



This means a special voodoo schaden doll for
the occasion. I'm already anticipating the
experience of Ace not letting me down..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:34:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This means a special voodoo schaden doll for
the occasion. I'm already anticipating the
experience of Ace not letting me down..





I knew it was only a matter of time...
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:39:14 PM permalink
And yet totally expected

Insanirt : Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:41:11 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I knew it was only a matter of time...



I'll have to custom order one like this, with my
own inscriptions on it.

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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:42:02 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades

I knew it was only a matter of time...



I'll have to custom order one like this, with my
own inscriptions on it.




Will you be posting photos of it with pins in various places? Will you take a poll on the forums for what spot to pin next?
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:58:24 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades




Will you be posting photos of it with pins in various places? Will you take a poll on the forums for what spot to pin next?



I do need hints on what to write on the body
parts. This isn't easy, it has to be done right.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 7:43:02 PM permalink
Good luck in the tourney.

The invite looks nice by the way.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 7:57:29 PM permalink
Quote: Perdition

Good luck in the tourney.

The invite looks nice by the way.




Thanks _ I am sure Bob is throwing darts at it already
But, it is much appreciated for a fellow board member to be rooting for another board member
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November 3rd, 2013 at 8:06:21 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Thanks _ I am sure Bob is throwing darts at it already
But, it is much appreciated for a fellow board member to be rooting for another board member



I rooted for you today and look what happened,
you lost, just as I predicted.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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November 3rd, 2013 at 8:22:24 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

*ahem* Too special to spend in VEGAS? It's the specialest place on earth! What better place to spend an anniversary. Plus, you could watch Ace on the 21st and watch Mission a couple days later. Nothing says 45th anniversary like watching a guy shove McNuggets in his face for an hour:-)



Actually, he could watch me on the 21st and then watch Ace on the 21st, except I don't know what time the BJ tournament is. In the McNuggets thread, I either agreed to 3p.m. or 4p.m., forget which.

Ace, you know I'm always pulling for you! I'd love to watch the Blackjack tournament, but we already have an engagement at Main Street Station after the Challenge, and I think I can say that me and Wizard plan to make it a somewhat late night. If you get knocked out of the tournament, or if it ends, by all means, please shoot over to MSS. There are few things I'd enjoy more than meeting you in person.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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November 3rd, 2013 at 8:23:51 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Actually, he could watch me on the 21st and then watch Ace on the 21st, except I don't know what time the BJ tournament is. In the McNuggets thread, I either agreed to 3p.m. or 4p.m., forget which.



Perfect! What a great way to spend an anniversary!
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November 3rd, 2013 at 9:00:16 PM permalink
With champagne as a McNugget chaser. Hey Josie, I got a great idea .
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November 4th, 2013 at 1:16:03 AM permalink
Congrats!!! aceofspades. Hope you win the big one.
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November 4th, 2013 at 3:01:48 AM permalink
lets go ace win some money
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November 4th, 2013 at 3:22:12 AM permalink
Quote: GoldMember

Congrats!!! aceofspades. Hope you win the big one.



Thanks goldmember - truly appreciate it
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November 4th, 2013 at 3:22:53 AM permalink
Quote: KB1

lets go ace win some money



Thanks KB!
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November 9th, 2013 at 10:14:10 AM permalink
OK so a bit of a scare yesterday as I called my hsot to ensure I was pre-registered for the tournament. I was informed that I had two separate offers for December and that they could not be "piggy-backed" so my host put me in for the Zarkana show offer which included a SkySuite and $300 resort credit rather than the BJ tournament offer. After I came too, I immediately informed her that, while the Zarkana offer was nice, there wasno way I was passing up on the BJ tournament offer. Luckily, it was remedied and I am now officially pre-registered for the BJ tournament. Talk about hyperventilating!
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November 9th, 2013 at 11:39:23 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

there wasno way I was passing up on the BJ tournament offer. Luckily, it was remedied and I am now officially pre-registered for the BJ tournament. Talk about hyperventilating!



You high rollers. That's what makes the schaden so
enjoyable for me and my friends. You know, my
little stuffed friends..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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November 9th, 2013 at 11:42:07 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades

there wasno way I was passing up on the BJ tournament offer. Luckily, it was remedied and I am now officially pre-registered for the BJ tournament. Talk about hyperventilating!



You high rollers. That's what makes the schaden so
enjoyable for me and my friends. You know, my
little stuffed friends..




I have yet to see any evidence of these so-called "friends"...

FYI Bob - I might not be in AC next weekend either and, the weekend after that, I believe I will be at the Mohegan Sun
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November 9th, 2013 at 12:01:12 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I believe I will be at the Mohegan Sun



MS works for me. A trip report is a trip report.
Isn't that where gR8 plays?
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November 9th, 2013 at 12:43:05 PM permalink
I wonder what they mean by, "All prizes awarded in nonnegotiable promotional chips"?

Presumably, since the asterisk is only next to the "one hand against the dealer for $500,000" prize, the $250,000 for the Aria and MGM Grand segments are in cash - but it does say "all prizes," so I'm not so sure about that. I would ask a few questions first.
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November 9th, 2013 at 2:13:03 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

I wonder what they mean by, "All prizes awarded in nonnegotiable promotional chips"?

Presumably, since the asterisk is only next to the "one hand against the dealer for $500,000" prize, the $250,000 for the Aria and MGM Grand segments are in cash - but it does say "all prizes," so I'm not so sure about that. I would ask a few questions first.




I have sent an email inquiry about this to my host.
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November 9th, 2013 at 2:59:41 PM permalink
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November 9th, 2013 at 3:02:50 PM permalink
This should please EvenBob to no end...

The response I received from Aria

Quote:

A non negotiable chip acts like a real chip, except the player may not "cash them in" immediately for cash. Any winnings generated from non negotiable chips are paid to player in cashable chips. It's equivalent to $250k cash in play. You may end of leaving with more if you win on tables.


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November 9th, 2013 at 3:50:57 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

This should please EvenBob to no end...

The response I received from Aria

Quote:

A non negotiable chip acts like a real chip, except the player may not "cash them in" immediately for cash. Any winnings generated from non negotiable chips are paid to player in cashable chips. It's equivalent to $250k cash in play. You may end of leaving with more if you win on tables.



It's not that bad, non-neg is the best kind of promo chip. Better than match play or "free play" which are generally a "use it once" and you lose the promo chip whether you win or lose. Basically it's like free slot play for table games. Run it through and you're left with the profits.

I mean, I wouldn't turn down a quarter mil in non-neg chips...
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November 9th, 2013 at 4:15:59 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Quote: aceofspades

This should please EvenBob to no end...

The response I received from Aria

Quote:

A non negotiable chip acts like a real chip, except the player may not "cash them in" immediately for cash. Any winnings generated from non negotiable chips are paid to player in cashable chips. It's equivalent to $250k cash in play. You may end of leaving with more if you win on tables.



It's not that bad, non-neg is the best kind of promo chip. Better than match play or "free play" which are generally a "use it once" and you lose the promo chip whether you win or lose. Basically it's like free slot play for table games. Run it through and you're left with the profits.

I mean, I wouldn't turn down a quarter mil in non-neg chips...




My next question being: If I have a bet out and I win the bet - do the promo chips remain in play or are they taken after each bet?
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:05:10 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

This should please EvenBob to no end...



It might please me if I understood what it meant.
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:08:58 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades

This should please EvenBob to no end...



It might please me if I understood what it meant.





It means the tournament prize of $250k is given in promotional chips that can only be wagered - they cannot be cashed in. You have to play them until they are all gone (but you keep all the winnings paid in real chips along the way)
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:13:02 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


You have to play them until they are all gone (but you keep all the winnings paid in real chips along the way)



Lol, you're right, I got a jolt of schaden just reading
that. It sucks, it's the same as getting slot points on
a player card. You only get to keep what's left after
the machines slaughter you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:16:01 PM permalink
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Lol, you're right, I got a jolt of schaden just reading
that. It sucks, it's the same as getting slot points on
a player card. You only get to keep what's left after
the machines slaughter you.





There's the Bob we know and 'love'
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:19:52 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades

This should please EvenBob to no end...



It might please me if I understood what it meant.





It means the tournament prize of $250k is given in promotional chips that can only be wagered - they cannot be cashed in. You have to play them until they are all gone (but you keep all the winnings paid in real chips along the way)



This still isn't a bad thing; go play some even money game for big bucks. It's like Bovada bonus money, but only has to be earned once, not 40x to cash. And they're comping you the entry fee, the room, maybe even the airfare/limo/etc. to come and play their game. Heck, ace, I'll dress up as a male lawyer and go in your place if you'll lend me your ID. I won't hit on any women for you, though. ;)
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:30:21 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

There's the Bob we know and 'love'



You knew it would please me and you were
right. The thought of them having all that play
money and squirming in their seats as it
disappears.. Delightful.
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November 9th, 2013 at 5:31:54 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

This still isn't a bad thing; go play some even money game for big bucks.


Hopefully, they won't pull some stunt like setting special conditions on the chips ("we're sorry, sir, but with promotional chips, all odds on the pass line pay off at even money") or giving you one $500,000 chip so you can't play one side against the other (e.g. $180,000 on red, $180,000 on black, and $20,000 on green - either you end up with $180,000 cash plus $300,000 in promotionals ($180,000 plus the $120,000 not bet), or $340,000 cash plus the $120,000 promotionals not bet); eventually you will grind the promotionals down to over $400,000 cash).

Now watch the $500,000 hand be a pair of Aces - "what do you mean, I can't split them?"
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November 9th, 2013 at 6:07:59 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: aceofspades

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades

This should please EvenBob to no end...



It might please me if I understood what it meant.





It means the tournament prize of $250k is given in promotional chips that can only be wagered - they cannot be cashed in. You have to play them until they are all gone (but you keep all the winnings paid in real chips along the way)



This still isn't a bad thing; go play some even money game for big bucks. It's like Bovada bonus money, but only has to be earned once, not 40x to cash. And they're comping you the entry fee, the room, maybe even the airfare/limo/etc. to come and play their game. Heck, ace, I'll dress up as a male lawyer and go in your place if you'll lend me your ID. I won't hit on any women for you, though. ;)




Thanks Babs - are you trying to pull off a reverse Nareed?
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November 9th, 2013 at 6:12:01 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Hopefully, they won't pull some stunt like setting special conditions on the chips ("we're sorry, sir, but with promotional chips, all odds on the pass line pay off at even money") or giving you one $500,000 chip so you can't play one side against the other (e.g. $180,000 on red, $180,000 on black, and $20,000 on green - either you end up with $180,000 cash plus $300,000 in promotionals ($180,000 plus the $120,000 not bet), or $340,000 cash plus the $120,000 promotionals not bet); eventually you will grind the promotionals down to over $400,000 cash).

Now watch the $500,000 hand be a pair of Aces - "what do you mean, I can't split them?"



If i won the tournament it would be $250k (the $500k is some post-tournament bonus).
If allowed, I would cover black, red and green in the appropriate amounts and walk away a guaranteed winner...

(I'm wondering how Bob would benefit from this though...???)
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November 9th, 2013 at 6:21:49 PM permalink
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Quote: aceofspades

If i won the tournament it would be $250k (the $500k is some post-tournament bonus).
If allowed, I would cover black, red and green in the appropriate amounts and walk away a guaranteed winner...

(I'm wondering how Bob would benefit from this though...???)


Horrible play. Grind it out on blackjack.



Blackjack at table max $50k? How would you play it?
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$10 at a time!
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