FleaStiff
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October 10th, 2012 at 12:07:06 PM permalink
Quote: JimmyHoofa

Final stats: Total net: $4000, 90 minutes. Just like how it’s supposed to be done. Don't stay too long at a casino, hit them hard and fast, cash out big!



This is a summary of a two man foray into three downtown casinos, two of which were rated medium heat at or near color-up.

Is this sort of thing really the norm?

How long would it have to be before one could return to these same casinos and count cards at blackjack again?

Link to Jimmy Hoofa's blog
EvenBob
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October 10th, 2012 at 12:42:58 PM permalink
This is not a regular occurance, as this is the
only gambling entry in his blog in the last 2
years. The rest are pic's of full ashtrays, ugly
beatup cars, fat men in casinos with their butt
cracks hanging out, and pic's of abandoned
buildings. Its like he makes a point of highlighting
the most depressing parts of Vegas. He also
doesn't like Gay men, apparently.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
FleaStiff
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October 10th, 2012 at 12:56:43 PM permalink
His hobby is photography. I don't hold that against him.
He documents the decline of quality in casinos and the deferred maintenance engaged in by The Evil Empire.
He prefers big expensive cars to jalopies.
He documents the current state of real estate development in Vegas.
... So what is so wrong with all of that.

I was asking about the blackjack results. Do you believe them? Do you think it could be turned into repeat visits or would the duration have to be far too long before going back for another score?
EvenBob
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October 10th, 2012 at 1:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff



I was asking about the blackjack results. Do you believe them?



That he made $4K in 90min Downtown
in casinos that are known for heat? Who
wouldn't believe that.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
odiousgambit
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October 10th, 2012 at 1:09:47 PM permalink
the only thing is, it didnt seem they had to wait for a good count, it was like it is all ripe plums ready for the picking.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!”   She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
FleaStiff
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October 10th, 2012 at 1:23:06 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

the only thing is, it didnt seem they had to wait for a good count, it was like it is all ripe plums ready for the picking.

That is what I mean. It was show up, start doing some bet spreading real soon and leave with a whole pocketful of money ... all before Fleastiff could count to ten.
EvenBob
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October 10th, 2012 at 2:06:26 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

That is what I mean. It was show up, start doing some bet spreading real soon and leave with a whole pocketful of money ... all before Fleastiff could count to ten.



It was the perfect storm, this is the crap
you see in BJ movies. Counting cards
means the game in an ATM, just down
and withdraw $4K.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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October 10th, 2012 at 2:16:11 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

That is what I mean. It was show up, start doing some bet spreading real soon and leave with a whole pocketful of money ... all before Fleastiff could count to ten.



I'm sure the same blog posted similar stories in the past... I love his line about 'I'm sure the eye was watching us closely'. Of course you can tell that, of course.

I can believe a quick hit and run working. But it's merely a good story, just like every bad beat story I've ever heard. One of those and $2 gets you a cheap cup of coffee.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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October 10th, 2012 at 5:27:54 PM permalink
I believe he said he was pretty sure the eye was analyzing his play.
We all know that feeling....its called paranoia
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
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October 10th, 2012 at 5:38:49 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

I believe he said he was pretty sure the eye was analyzing his play.
We all know that feeling....its called paranoia



Paranoia or attempting to make the story more interesting. Less than thirty minutes of play usually isn't going to be a problem. That's why we keep our sessions short.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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October 15th, 2012 at 3:25:07 PM permalink
Recapitulation:
I was only concerned about the blackjack. I admit his blog is more devoted to photography and cigarette-debris than gambling.
My sole question was whether the reported foray was believable and if so, how soon one might repeat it before heat descended real hard.
I think the consensus is that the incident may well have taken place but that it is by no means repeatable at will. Many card counters walk in for a short session and walk out in the negative column. So he may have described this incident truthfully but that does not make this one incident truly representative of what would normally happen to card counters in those casinos.

It seems he was reporting on "the cream" ... but it sure was interesting money to make in such a short time.

I too thought it was strange for him to "know" what the eye in the sky was doing, but perhaps that is a normal feeling for card counters.
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October 15th, 2012 at 4:58:20 PM permalink
I bet I could make $4000 in 90 minutes. One bet of $4000 at the El Cortez...lol.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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July 5th, 2013 at 7:18:51 AM permalink
For a good review of various casinos in town, their smokiness, the age and attractiveness of their Tray Lizards, their BJ Dealers, Suit's demeanor, etc.:

Can't beat this guy
Ibeatyouraces
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July 5th, 2013 at 7:50:43 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
FleaStiff
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July 5th, 2013 at 12:55:25 PM permalink
Alot of information comes to someone in a manner that reflects considerable fluctuation in topics. One may start out gripeing about resort fees and wind up learning about black jack rules. Many people have more than one major interest. The quality of the CWs at the M is legendary and a discussion about it can lead to different goals and interests.

Much of our interest in comps is based on second hand data. Learning about various blogs around town is a good thing even if each particular blog has some defect to it.
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July 5th, 2013 at 3:25:05 PM permalink
Chrome doesn't like that site for me as it thinks it's a malware threat.
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July 5th, 2013 at 3:32:36 PM permalink
Yup, I got the same warning.
I know nothing!
FleaStiff
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July 6th, 2013 at 4:04:25 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Chrome doesn't like that site for me as it thinks it's a malware threat.


>Yup, I got the same warning.
Well, I ain't gonna be injecting your hard drives with any anti-virus serum. Two years ago he and his provider had the same trouble with FireFox and they eventually fixed it .... something about a very careful provider, I recall.

On-edit: I've just now emailed him about Chrome and malware messages.

He only sporadically publishes his blog so my delay hardly matters. I do however appreciate the data on advantage play in blackjack.
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August 2nd, 2013 at 1:55:18 AM permalink
It's believable without reading. Things like this happen. I myself have told a similar story where I was playing blackjack at Frontier and Desert Inn. I didn't recall having to sit through 2 6 deck shoes before cashing out with 12-15 hundred on 12 occasions. The same goes with my Illinois blackjack story. Only once did I have to play a few hours to get ahead enough to leave. I was amazed at how fast and easy the wins were coming in.

It's believable. And if it isn't does that really matter?
Buffering...
FleaStiff
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August 2nd, 2013 at 3:49:53 AM permalink
One thing I gained from his blog was that Stations casinos would accept coupons from other station's mailings.

So this guy has them all with him and only if his first bet is favorable and the count is favorable, he continues using the mailers... its not always that he will have four successive free bets, the deck will remain favorable and he will go through four mailer-coupons and then maybe even stay and play for awhile ... but its occasionally going to happen.

Driving to Silverton for a five dollar match play is just fine if you happen to live near there and happen to like the Silverton; otherwise its pretty much a waste of time to drive anywhere much less to the Silverton for a lousy five dollar match play. Teasers that are designed to get you into a casino are just fine, but if luck is not with you, leave.
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