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thoughts on my craps system
| September 10th, 2011 at 5:28:40 AM permalink | |
| ottogtr Member since: Sep 10, 2011 Threads: 1 Posts: 2 | real simple hit the 6 or 8 (place bets) six times before thirt-three 7 out $2000 bankroll ill start off with $30 ea on the 6 & 8 (place bets) full press the number that hits ill do it till one of the two numbers win 6 times starts over if its a 7 out off on the come out roll if the point is a 6/8 do not remove it bet win $30 $35 +$1 36 42 78 91 -$1 168 196 +$2 366 427 -$1 792 924 win 1687 + the other bet subract $60x rolls that didnt hit |
| September 10th, 2011 at 6:14:41 AM permalink | |
| FinsRule Member since: Dec 23, 2009 Threads: 50 Posts: 755 | A better system is to play pass with 100x odds... (EDIT) *that should say pass, but even better, don't pass* But as far as systems go, at least yours doesn't use a bet with too high of a house edge. |
| September 10th, 2011 at 6:20:57 AM permalink | |
| ottogtr Member since: Sep 10, 2011 Threads: 1 Posts: 2 | thanks for the comment the system you mention needs a big bankroll and take forever to win 50% of the starting money |
| September 10th, 2011 at 7:08:31 AM permalink | |||||||||||||||||||
| odiousgambit Member since: Nov 9, 2009 Threads: 172 Posts: 2394 |
it does take a big bankroll. If it is working you should be able to press your bets, though. here is a table of HE divided by Variance, which is at least a clue as to where various negative expectation bets sit as to trying to make variance work for you (see thread) I added the place 6/8 which is roughly the same as the PL from this persective.
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| September 10th, 2011 at 7:43:05 AM permalink | |
| guido111 Member since: Sep 16, 2010 Threads: 5 Posts: 476 |
1. I see no reason why the bets are off on the come out roll. The dice do not even know it is the come out roll. You need 6 wins in a row. That is difficult enough without limiting your rolls. 2. Full press? Your second bet then should be $66 after a first win. Yes? A classic power press move. edit added: my simulations shows ~42% of sessions with a $2k bankroll will have a streak of 6 - 6s or 8s and with power pressing up to a $300 bet, then press to $600 and $1200 and showing a profit. ~20% of the sessions ended with a profit around $1000 because the winning run took place after the bankroll was already negative. Of course your losing sessions, (and I only played 10,000 of them total) are more than winning sessions and overall you lose around 1.52% of the total handle that you make. No surprise there. |
| September 10th, 2011 at 4:15:23 PM permalink | |
| Tiltpoul Member since: May 5, 2010 Threads: 28 Posts: 1106 |
I'm assuming you're talking about a bankroll MANAGEMENT technique... you're not expecting to make money in the long run?? Just curious, because I only read the system posts to try to figure out how I'm going to make a million dollars playing a negative expectation game. [Profile updated... more to come] |
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