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September 7th, 2010 at 6:56:57 PM permalink
Why do I call it that? I have no idea. There are MANY versions of 'this' out there...mine, I like. You will NOT be betting on every spin. Oh, oh....I just lost 64% of the readers. I will be betting ONE number using a progression. My progression is 1-96, $3,065 on a loss. $10 is the opening bet..........Alright, I wait for 2 hits of a number in nine spins. It happens more than you think but YES, you will have some down time.

I track all numbers but only need the last nine. When the next number hits, I cross off the furthest hit number. ONLY keep track of nine. I bet on the number with TWO hits within the nine. As soon as it drops from my nine recorded numbers, no more betting on it. I wait until there are two again. That can be immediately or it might be a 15 spin wait. You might only bet on a number for one spin.

I will give examples because you MUST have rules for all the 'what if' situations of ANY method. What if there are two sets of two different numbers hit? I bet on the number that will be dropped the fastest. There is an exception to that rule. If a number has THREE hits on it within the nine, stay on that number. SIDENOTE: We are only betting one number so it CAN HAPPEN that we lose out on a win. If that does happen, we would then switch our bet to that number. Why? It would have THREE hits on it. EXAMPLES >> (The top number will be the number just hit)

7
32
28
7
0
15
13
28
6..... What number would we be betting? The 28 cause it is the closest to being dropped. With exceptions of course. Lets say the next spin is a 28...its a WIN and we then stick to the 28. OR...the 6 and 28 get dropped, a 13 and 35 just hit. You might think to bet the 7. No, the 13 is the CLOSEST (to the bottom) to being dropped. After that, we can switch our bet to the 7.


36
32
27
27
19
3
20
27
3.......What is our bet? Not the 3. Yes, it is closest to being dropped but we have three hits of the 27, so 27 is our bet (for now), its quite easy. I have played this live, B&M and Dublin and have damn good results so far.

22
30
20
11
0
4
25
3
22..........What is our bet? The 22 but for only one spin (unless it gets hit next). Questions? Ken
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September 7th, 2010 at 7:21:54 PM permalink
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Questions?


Hey Ken,

It seems like a lot of your methods involve tracking previously hit numbers. If you're just looking at the history for fun, that's cool. Like I said before, I bet my birthday on the inside when I play roulette. I also bet against streaks in baccarat, even though I know it doesn't change the odds. It's a fun way to add a little something to the game without altering the odds. But if you're using a progressive betting scheme based on historical numbers, it really is only a matter of time until you get burned. The wheel will hit each number with 1/38 frequency over the long run, and it does not remember the numbers that were previously hit.

Also, I think there are single 0 wheels at the commercial casinos in IL and IN (at higher stakes). If you're serious about playing roulette, you'd help yourself a good bit by leaving the land of beer and cheese to play.

Ross
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September 7th, 2010 at 7:39:00 PM permalink
A couple points. We do have a 0 wheel but the min. is usually high and most of my bets start out at either $5 or $10. Question for you in regards to using 'past results'. In your OPINION, are these TWO examples the SAME? >> Looking at only one past number OR crossing off every number hit until only one number is left. Then start betting on that one number.

Are BOTH of these the same? Yes I know, the ball has no memory etc. lol Thats an old saying, I read it years ago in many books. BTW, this method you are reading, so far, has been a LONG TERM winner for me. Meaning? If/when it gets to the point of heading south, perhaps I'll 'kick it to the side' and not play it anymore. Ken
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September 7th, 2010 at 7:56:19 PM permalink
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Looking at only one past number OR crossing off every number hit until only one number is left. Then start betting on that one number.



Am I right in rephrasing that as: is there a difference between something being "hot" and something being "due?" If yes, then there's no statistical difference - they're both just anomalies that screw with people's perceptions. For what it's worth, when I play baccarat I bet on what's "due" (breaking a streak) and not on what's "hot" (the streak). It's a fun way to add a little something extra to the game, but it doesn't change the odds at all. My baccarat bet is still almost exactly 1 to 1, and your single number roulette bet is still exactly 1 to 37 to win.
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September 7th, 2010 at 8:17:39 PM permalink
Not I'm really confused (not arguing with you man). So you say that something 'due' is ok with one game but not another game? Also, a number(s) can not be hot or cold or due AND the person believes that every number is independant from the last. I catch people all the time (not you) with conflicting views on this subject. Ken
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September 7th, 2010 at 9:08:21 PM permalink
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Not I'm really confused (not arguing with you man). So you say that something 'due' is ok with one game but not another game? Also, a number(s) can not be hot or cold or due AND the person believes that every number is independant from the last. I catch people all the time (not you) with conflicting views on this subject. Ken



I think there is no such thing as a number being due or a number being hot. Those things are just illusions caused by normal variance. But if I'm going to bet a game, I'm going to base my bet on something. Since I don't think it makes a difference what I bet on, I bet against the streak in baccarat. That is more interesting to me than betting banker every time (but, I suppose, slightly less likely to win). I don't think it changes the odds, just my level of enjoyment.
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September 7th, 2010 at 9:14:28 PM permalink
Level of enjoyment? Now we are getting somewhere. (I'm kind of good at this) So why continue to play (having fun) if you are STILL playing a game where the house STILL has its advantage over you?? You bet against the streak in bacc. but you say you dont think it makes a difference what you bet on? I'm confused. Ken
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September 7th, 2010 at 9:30:28 PM permalink
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Level of enjoyment? Now we are getting somewhere. (I'm kind of good at this) So why continue to play (having fun) if you are STILL playing a game where the house STILL has its advantage over you?? You bet against the streak in bacc. but you say you dont think it makes a difference what you bet on? I'm confused. Ken



Gambling is fun. The value of the enjoyment I derive from gambling is greater than the cost of gambling for me. Of course it doesn't make a difference what I bet on in baccarat. The cards are randomly distributed. I know banker is a slightly better bet, but it's just not much fun to bet banker all the time. It's not much fun to play baccarat, either, but there are some promotions where baccarat play is required at my local casinos.

What I don't understand is why you've decided to play the worst game possible. Double 0 roulette has the highest house advantage of any table game in the casino. Why pick that game in a casino that also has BJ and craps? If you want to develop a method to play with, why not do it on the craps table where similar number progressions exist but the house advantage is 5 to 10 times less? Note: I do not think that progression betting cuts into the house advantage. But if you do, you should at least do it on the game with the lowest house edge to begin with.
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September 7th, 2010 at 9:44:36 PM permalink
Progressions are interesting, IMO. If I flat bet on a number and it hits on the 37th try, I lose. If it hits on the 37th try using a progression, I NET something. I like roulette because unlike cards (as example) what others do at the roulette table will NOT affect me. Cards...might. I can also sit and track at the roulette table for awhile and its not a huge deal. Can I sit on a chair at the BJ table for 30 minutes without betting? Nope. I love tracking numbers BUT its not the only way I play so dont think that or misquote me. I'll tell ya something and I dont care what comments come from it. I think roulette is semi-easy to win at, I dont see the huge difficulty? I admit, when I first started playing, yes it sucked big time, quite tough to figure out and do 'well at'. Ken
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