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A roulette method with teeth
| September 6th, 2010 at 12:56:05 PM permalink | |
| mrjjj Member since: Sep 4, 2010 Threads: 62 Posts: 1302 | "It appears that you spend all of your time posting on here. Four posts in a row, and 45 posts since registering on Sept 4" >>> Isn't that self explanatory? If there are a ton of questions or slamming me, I will of course politely respond. I'm not one of those guys that 'goes away', get use to me. Ken If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Playing at the casino doesn't make you a pro any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. I prefer to be hated for telling the truth, than loved for telling a lie. No person has yet convinced me that their way of playing roulette is better than my way. Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things roulette AP players don't like to do. I'm sure AP (roulette) worked just fine back in 1923. Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing. 5.26%, so what?......I get taxed everyday. Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Bad news.....throwing in the towel after spending a TOTAL of 9 hours on roulette does NOT mean you can't be successful with it.
Don't let the '2+2 will never equal 5' crowd bring you down. TRIAL & ERROR guys, I can't say it enough! When you're finished changing, you're finished. |
| September 6th, 2010 at 1:01:37 PM permalink | |
| mrjjj Member since: Sep 4, 2010 Threads: 62 Posts: 1302 | Hey DeMango, AZDuffman and mkl >>> You guys NEVER answered me. How do you play roulette? I assume you kick a** playing? @mkl >> Also, what game do you play with your 'advantage'? Can you explain it to all of us? Thanks buddy, Ken If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Playing at the casino doesn't make you a pro any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. I prefer to be hated for telling the truth, than loved for telling a lie. No person has yet convinced me that their way of playing roulette is better than my way. Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things roulette AP players don't like to do. I'm sure AP (roulette) worked just fine back in 1923. Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing. 5.26%, so what?......I get taxed everyday. Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Bad news.....throwing in the towel after spending a TOTAL of 9 hours on roulette does NOT mean you can't be successful with it.
Don't let the '2+2 will never equal 5' crowd bring you down. TRIAL & ERROR guys, I can't say it enough! When you're finished changing, you're finished. |
| September 6th, 2010 at 1:09:51 PM permalink | |
| mrjjj Member since: Sep 4, 2010 Threads: 62 Posts: 1302 | ROFL, nice try mkl, I read your last post. Listen up Mary, we can spot a bitter guy a mile out and YOU fit the bill. You troll around on boards looking for trouble and then pat yourself on the back afterwards. Your ONLY ammo is to LIE to fellow posters. What a shame, you need help. Walk it like you talk it, thats all WE ask from you bro. I spent around 20 minutes reading some of your past posts from other threads. I see the SAME hostility in most of your posts. If you cant win, so what, move on. You have too much shame built up for being a loser in the gambling world. I have posted MANY times regarding losing ALOT of money playing roulette. Trust me, it does suck. The difference between you and I? I admit to my losses, you dont. Work on that and come back to the forum when and only when you feel you can cope. As a matter of fact, email me first, I'll give you the 'ok' if I think you should come back. Ken If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Playing at the casino doesn't make you a pro any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. I prefer to be hated for telling the truth, than loved for telling a lie. No person has yet convinced me that their way of playing roulette is better than my way. Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things roulette AP players don't like to do. I'm sure AP (roulette) worked just fine back in 1923. Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing. 5.26%, so what?......I get taxed everyday. Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Bad news.....throwing in the towel after spending a TOTAL of 9 hours on roulette does NOT mean you can't be successful with it.
Don't let the '2+2 will never equal 5' crowd bring you down. TRIAL & ERROR guys, I can't say it enough! When you're finished changing, you're finished. |
| September 6th, 2010 at 3:56:28 PM permalink | |
| teddys Member since: Nov 14, 2009 Threads: 99 Posts: 2707 | We need some baccarat systems. "If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling |
| September 6th, 2010 at 3:57:44 PM permalink | |
| mrjjj Member since: Sep 4, 2010 Threads: 62 Posts: 1302 | From who, me? lol I never played the game, never will. Its roulette or NOTHING. Ken If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Playing at the casino doesn't make you a pro any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. I prefer to be hated for telling the truth, than loved for telling a lie. No person has yet convinced me that their way of playing roulette is better than my way. Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things roulette AP players don't like to do. I'm sure AP (roulette) worked just fine back in 1923. Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing. 5.26%, so what?......I get taxed everyday. Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Bad news.....throwing in the towel after spending a TOTAL of 9 hours on roulette does NOT mean you can't be successful with it.
Don't let the '2+2 will never equal 5' crowd bring you down. TRIAL & ERROR guys, I can't say it enough! When you're finished changing, you're finished. |
| September 7th, 2010 at 6:37:49 AM permalink | |
| rtpud Member since: Sep 2, 2010 Threads: 6 Posts: 26 | I read through to page 4 and got bored, but figured I would jump in here. The main difference that I see is this: The Proponent/Author - Belief that future events relate to past events on the roulette wheel The Dissentors - Belief that events are stochastic and independent So, who cares what his system does or what the simulations say...the real question is are roulette wheels innately biased in some way and if you record enough numbers over time could you empirically determine his "X" value for betting a "hot" street. So, mr. system how many numbers have you recorded to develop this trend and for which wheel in which casino? To me it is entirely plausible that all wheels have a bias but the bias is not cosmic (ala gamblers fallacy), it is equipment related. Recall also, humans have evolved to see patterns...it is in our genetics, and in general we will see patterns even where they don't exist...math, statistics and simulation can all help prove or disprove what we think we see. So, to the author, please post your raw data on spins and your raw data on performance... thanks |
| September 7th, 2010 at 8:22:47 AM permalink | |
| MathExtremist Member since: Aug 31, 2010 Threads: 45 Posts: 2511 |
All roulette wheels *do* have bias. There's no such thing as a mechanical device for generating a perfect uniform distribution. The problem is that you (the player) can't detect it or exploit it prior to the casino finding out about it, unless they're really falling asleep at the switch. Many roulette tables have bias-tracking software running which does an ongoing statistical analysis of the outcome distribution and will signal when/if a wheel becomes questionably-balanced. That software is programmed to raise red flags before the bias becomes exploitable. For example, if the 00 spot happened 1% more often than it should, with the rest of the spots decreasing slightly to compensate, you still don't have the edge betting on 00. The point is that if you think charting numbers at a roulette wheel is going to help you beat the wheel, don't bother. The casino gets to use a computer and you don't:
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563 |
| September 7th, 2010 at 9:15:59 AM permalink | |
| rudeboyoi Member since: Mar 28, 2010 Threads: 17 Posts: 577 | how does this thread have this many posts? |
| September 7th, 2010 at 10:38:20 AM permalink | |
| Ericayne Member since: Mar 9, 2010 Threads: 0 Posts: 88 | LOL!! It's another "system" vs. "math" thread! Always entertaining...and will always get high traffic around here for some reason..... |
| September 7th, 2010 at 10:47:37 AM permalink | |
| mkl654321 Member since: Aug 8, 2010 Threads: 65 Posts: 3412 |
It's more like stupidity vs. rationality. However, the world DOES need stupid people--to play the lottery, to pack the stadiums at monster truck rallies, to stop bullets, to buy Budweiser--so perhaps we shouldn't be so hard on people like jjj. After all, if not for him and his ilk, casino games would be even worse than they are now. The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw |
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