A roulette method with teeth

Quote: EvenBob

Ken is a not system seller, why do you keep saying that? I've seen thousands of his posts over the years, he never sells anything.

Then what was the point of posting his Super Infallible Roulette System, and making indefensible claims and brags about it? Isn't this audience the single LEAST likely one to believe him? And if his system, in defiance of four hundred years of mathematics, actually worked, why on earth would he post it on a public forum?

I am SURE that he will copy and paste many of the posts from this site to some other and blare "GAMBLING EXPERTS CANNOT REFUTE MY SYSTEM" or some other such tommyrot. He has some ulterior motive, and I doubt that he will tell us what it is.

I only think that, by the way, because he's exerting far too much effort to be the other possibility, i.e., just a garden-variety idiot. Why you're taking his side is beyond me--the nonsense he's posting is at the very least a waste of time, and it could be misleading to someone who doesn't know any better, and will lose money because of him.

If Ken can explain his system a little better to me, I still don't quite understand it I will give it a try on a dollar roulette wheel, I dont mind losing a few bucks to see if it works or not, better than watching my money vanish playing perfect strategy with the kind of luck I tend to have!

Quote: mkl654321

Why you're taking his side is beyond me--

I'm not taking his side as much as saying that you don't know him and I do. Or at least I'm familiar with his posts over the years. He's never hints at selling anything, he just enjoys posting about what he does. You people complain about no gambling posts, so somebody posts what he does and you climb all over him. Nice job.

Quote: mrjjj

Its not a system, its a method and I have quite a few. Listen up coolbreeze, EVERY roulette method has or should have a grade, a grade from the author. NOT EVERY method is the same, most will agree. Only REAL players know this. IMO, methods that have a B+ or higher, most likely will not be posted.

I have two GREAT methods not posted and never will be (I think). No sales here so dont go that route. I would say the method on this thread is a C+ (IMO).

A rating system for systems, strategies and methods... Now that is a novel idea.

I ran 10,000 sims of the "street last 12 spins" C+ system in Roulette Xtreme software and showed a 37.43% win rate of making a $1000 win goal.
A 62.57% bust rate of $3K start bankroll.
The longest win streak was 32 sessions. The second longest was 18 and the median was only 3.


AS a comparison:
http://freeroulette.tripod.com/systems.htm (the site only explains the system, I have the system in PDF form)
The Ludica Roulette systems EPOS street system that only makes a street bet, showed a 46.18% win rate over the same games and spins.

Standard Deviation of the C+ system is very high. No wonder with A straight up bet has a 5.76 SD
The average spins to achieve the $1000 win goal was over 250 spins. That is about 6 to 7 hours at a B&M roulette table. SD was 85 spins.

The system when it wins, wins fast. It needs 1 number to hit over the 12 spin cycle, and at most times there are at least 2 bets being made.

I did not learn much by doing this exercise, I thought I would, so I post no data tables.

An adjustment to the C+ system made the win rate up to 42.93% by betting the 2 street numbers that have already hit in the last 12 spins. But that creates a totally different animal all together.

Quote: mkl654321

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: thecesspit

I don't know, where did I say he won big at all once?

When someone 'wins big' at gambling, its always all at once. Like a jackpot or a lucky run at dice. Nobody 'wins big' over a period of years, that called just plain winning. Like having a job. The impression MLK gives is that he won it all at once and will lose it all at once. I don't think so.

He will lose it all because of human nature, and his own faulty perception that he has a "winning system".

Visualize this scenario: he takes one of his frequent gambling trips, and this time, he gets his clock cleaned. This is inevitable if he keeps playing; it would be inevitable even if he had the advantage that he thinks he has, rather than the house having it. He then tells himself that the loss was due to random bad luck, and gathers more cash to go back to the casino. In the past, this has "worked". However, this time, it doesn't: he loses again. At some point, he starts doubling his bets to get even. However, he doesn't get even. He eventually loses all his ready cash. Then he borrows money against his restaurant, because his roulette system is a sure-fire winner and all he needs to do is keep "investing" in it. After a while, he loses his restaurant, his house, his car, and his friends and family.

The above will happen surely as the night doth follow the day.

Nonsense.

I know you seem to think that everyone has a gambling issue who gambles, but it's a total no-sequitur to go from losing money in one session (which could happen) to Ken gambling it all away and losing his shirt, house, car and business.

Just because it happens in some cases, it does not follow it happens in all cases. I have a feeling that you've either seen it or hand it happen to you or a close associate.

Quote: nope27

A rating system for systems, strategies and methods... Now that is a novel idea.

I ran 10,000 sims of the "street last 12 spins" C+ system in Roulette Xtreme software and showed a 37.43% win rate of making a $1000 win goal.
A 62.57% bust rate of $3K start bankroll.
The longest win streak was 32 sessions. The second longest was 18 and the median was only 3.

Last update:

I lowered the win goal to $100. Bankroll same $3000
Win percentage now 88.41%. Nice increase numerically.
Bust rate 11.59%
But this causes larger bankroll total losses as one can clearly calculate.
I can increase the bankroll gains by increasing the average size bet. That becomes more work.

The relationship between bet size, bankroll and win goal is a fine one. A bet size or win goal that is too low or high in relation to the bankroll will cause risk of ruin to increase.

And we all know what fighting a 5.26% house edge can do to ones probability of winning.

Again, any betting system can win at any time, but more times it will lose because when it does lose the losses are much larger than the wins.
The Wizard has spoken about that fact many times over.

I have a little rule. lol You have THREE posts (not a big deal) AND all three where straight to my thread ripping me. Which probably means.....hang on.....you are one of 'the crew'. Too many of you goofs try and PRETEND to be someone else, I never really understood the concept of that?? A fresh start? If you dont like this method, dont play it. At least I had the NUTS to post. :) Ken

"A rating system for systems, strategies and methods... Now that is a novel idea" >>> I thought everybody did that or should? I had D and F methods...I play them no more. I currently have methods from C+ up to A-. Ken

"Why you're taking his side is beyond me" >>> Couldn't I ask you the opposite question mkl? Why bust my balls? I 'do well' and will NOT apologize for it. How do you play roulette mkl? At least I had the NUTS to post. I enjoy every conversation regarding roulette, I always have. Even a few AP (cough) conversations are educational. Ken

If Ken can explain his system a little better to me, I still don't quite understand it I will give it a try on a dollar roulette wheel, I dont mind losing a few bucks to see if it works or not, better than watching my money vanish playing perfect strategy with the kind of luck I tend to have! >>> You hit the nail on the head. I'm not saying bring 3K with you. Use dollar chips, if you start to tank, quit. Seems fair.

In terms of explaining it better? Its kinda easy, not sure what else to say. Even the 'slammers' get it. Track the last 12 numbers hit. Not 11, not 13. As each new number hits, cross off the latest number, always have 12. Look within the 12 to find TWO numbers in a street hit....a 2 and 3 as example. We flat bet the 1 until either the 2 or 3 are out of the 12 recorded, ok no win on that 1. It seems that betting on two different numbers per spin is the average. There are times you'll only bet on one number or betting on NO numbers or betting on 3 numbers.

If you have all 3 numbers within the street, no betting on any of those until its back down to TWO. EXAMPLE: Lets say the 34 35 36 are all within the 12 recorded. Well, we'll have a win on one of those, correct? Lets say a few spins later, the 35 DROPS from the 12 recorded. We now bet on the 35 UNTIL either the 34 OR the 36 drops from the 12 (or a win). Its very easy. If you have a more detailed question, fire away and I'll help out. Ken