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A roulette method with teeth

September 5th, 2010 at 3:10:43 PM permalink
mkl654321
Member since: Aug 8, 2010
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Quote: thecesspit
But my opinion is that you brought your restaurant with some luck on the roulette table.


And if that is the case, it is a virtual certainty that he will lose his restaurant the same way, and sooner rather than later. A fool and his money, etc.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 5th, 2010 at 3:22:36 PM permalink
mrjjj
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lol, The restaurant is a done deal. It has been for around 7 months. Thanks for the concern. Ken
(AP is for suckers) Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing.
September 5th, 2010 at 3:32:07 PM permalink
mkl654321
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Quote: mrjjj
lol, The restaurant is a done deal. It has been for around 7 months. Thanks for the concern. Ken


Line: JJJ loses his restaurant:

Over 12 months: -130
Under 12 months: +110

Line: JJJ actually has no restaurant, and lives in a 1959 Jetstream in the rear of a junkyard

Yes: -250
It's actually a Winnebago: +210

Line: JJJ actually believes what he's saying about his "system"

Yes: +600
No: -850
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 5th, 2010 at 3:41:54 PM permalink
thecesspit
Member since: Apr 19, 2010
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Quote: mkl654321
And if that is the case, it is a virtual certainty that he will lose his restaurant the same way, and sooner rather than later. A fool and his money, etc.


No reason why he should lose his restaurant, even if he got lucky winning it.

You seem convinced anyone who wins big gambling must naturally lose big. I don't think it does.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 5th, 2010 at 3:43:37 PM permalink
thecesspit
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Quote: mrjjj
I think you would agree there are more than one definition of a pattern? Not sure this is one but like I said, the 'wording' is not at the top of my list. If YOU want to call it a pattern, knock yourself out. I see a pattern more like this >> RR BB RR BB. Ken


No worries, but I don't know what else you'd could call it... you are looking for a sequence to guide your bet. Anyways, no matter, you can keep thinking I may or may not use your system. I know you don't really mind if I do or don't.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 5th, 2010 at 3:56:00 PM permalink
EvenBob
Member since: Jul 18, 2010
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Quote: thecesspit
No reason why he should lose his restaurant, even if he got lucky winning it.

You seem convinced anyone who wins big gambling must naturally lose big. I don't think it does.


I got the impression that Ken won over a period of years, not all at once. Where did he say he won big all at once?
"Gambling doesn't build character, it reveals it."
September 5th, 2010 at 4:05:16 PM permalink
thecesspit
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Quote: EvenBob
I got the impression that Ken won over a period of years, not all at once. Where did he say he won big all at once?


I don't know, where did I say he won big at all once?
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 5th, 2010 at 4:11:59 PM permalink
EvenBob
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Quote: thecesspit
I don't know, where did I say he won big at all once?


When someone 'wins big' at gambling, its always all at once. Like a jackpot or a lucky run at dice. Nobody 'wins big' over a period of years, that called just plain winning. Like having a job. The impression MLK gives is that he won it all at once and will lose it all at once. I don't think so.
"Gambling doesn't build character, it reveals it."
September 5th, 2010 at 4:17:02 PM permalink
EvenBob
Member since: Jul 18, 2010
Threads: 199
Posts: 5034
Quote: mkl654321
Line: JJJ loses his restaurant:

Over 12 months: -130
Under 12 months: +110

Line: JJJ actually has no restaurant, and lives in a 1959 Jetstream in the rear of a junkyard

Yes: -250
It's actually a Winnebago: +210

Line: JJJ actually believes what he's saying about his "system"

Yes: +600
No: -850


Ken mentioned the restaurant last spring as I recall. He's a mod on a roulette forum. He always posts the same, has for years. I don't think he lies, he just wins more than he loses. It does happen, you know. Its not beating the house edge, its just playing smart and staying ahead of the game. With a big BR and a good progression and aggressive smart play, its possible to stay ahead for a very long time.
"Gambling doesn't build character, it reveals it."
September 5th, 2010 at 4:38:58 PM permalink
mkl654321
Member since: Aug 8, 2010
Threads: 65
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Quote: EvenBob
Ken mentioned the restaurant last spring as I recall. He's a mod on a roulette forum. He always posts the same, has for years. I don't think he lies, he just wins more than he loses. It does happen, you know. Its not beating the house edge, its just playing smart and staying ahead of the game. With a big BR and a good progression and aggressive smart play, its possible to stay ahead for a very long time.


Uhhhh...no way. Re the system, not the restaurant, that is. As far as restaurant owners go, I've noticed that entrepreneurs are overrepresented in the population of gamblers; that's because entrepreneurship is itself a gamble: they are used to taking risks. Unfortunately, this can also make them feel they are bulletproof, especially if their initial riaks pan out.

In a way, having a roulette "system" is not unlike opening up a small business that is based on a faulty business model, but you succeed (for now) because of a lucky break or unforeseen circumstance. This fools the inept business owner into thinking that he actually knows something about business. Then the crash dive happens. Similarly, Ken thinks he's "figured out" roulette (though I can't imagine any sane person thinking this, it seems to be so); his initial successes have masked the truth, which is that he figures to get crushed sooner or later.

I have no doubt that there are some people who win more than they lose: I even know some "professional keno players" who have "figured out the pattern" of the numbers that come up. They are ahead for the time being. Of course, that is simply a coincidence; there is no such thing as a viable keno "system". But they have themselves convinced that they are ahead because of their brilliance and perspicacity. There is nothing so great as the human capacity for self-delusion.

There is no way to play roulette in "smart" fashion. It's certainly possible to stay ahead for a long time, but it's much more possible to lose and stay behind---forever. If Ken continues to play roulette "aggressively", he will lose his money and his restaurant. Furthermore, he will deserve to.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw

 

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