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EvenBob
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April 23rd, 2016 at 7:11:10 PM permalink
Quote: letswin



Only here to share my idea and experience. Do with it as you please.



You shared your methods details? I didn't see
that, what were they. If you haven't, all you've
shared is your tall tales, which on their own
amount to nothing but stories.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
letswin
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April 23rd, 2016 at 7:13:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You shared your methods details? I didn't see
that, what were they. If you haven't, all you've
shared is your tall tales, which on their own
amount to nothing but stories.



I said i wasnt in the first post. I only came here to share my idea and experience. Why not just avoid the thread if it contained nothng of interest to you, you know?
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April 23rd, 2016 at 7:45:45 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

I said i wasnt in the first post. I only came here to share my idea and experience. Why not just avoid the thread if it contained nothng of interest to you, you know?



I'm wondering why it's even allowed here.
You sound like a system seller, bragging
about how much money you make but
not letting on how you do it. Whenever
someone starts throwing out dollar
amounts, warning bells should go off.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
letswin
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April 23rd, 2016 at 7:51:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I'm wondering why it's even allowed here.
You sound like a system seller, bragging
about how much money you make but
not letting on how you do it. Whenever
someone starts throwing out dollar
amounts, warning bells should go off.



You guys kill me. Lol

Yes. The system seller who hasnt solicited anyone since 2014. And still hasnt. Oh. I get it...ive been still working on my sales pitch and been selling via pm right? Lol. You find one person who i sold a system to since i started the thread in 2014 and ill show you the elixir of life. :)
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April 23rd, 2016 at 7:56:59 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I'm wondering why it's even allowed here.
You sound like a system seller, bragging
about how much money you make but
not letting on how you do it. Whenever
someone starts throwing out dollar
amounts, warning bells should go off.



This is a free forum. Unless someone is breaking any laws in the state or country they reside in, i can very well post what i do, without explaining how. Its my choice.
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:12:30 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

Ok. So let me get this straight. I posted that i a thread called baccarat can be beaten. Not baccarat has been beaten, but can be beaten, cuz i discovered an idea, that if applied a certain way? Worked for me. I shared the idea. Shared the experience. Then, i disappear for 2 years, obviously too occupied with life and playing baccarat. I then posted again about more of latest experience...including the team of ten i know employ (close friends) to play for me.

I did all this to troll (including the 2 year disappearance) and to drive random ppl to beg me to teach them. Despite my firm
Statements that i will not teach anyone.


Makes perfect sense. Lol. I have a method that for many years? Has been working. You think im the only one whos won for years from baccarat? Lol. Theres people whove used methoda that have worked for 15 years. None of us have ever denied the house edge and the high possibility that whatever were doing will just stop working. However, ive made so much money from this system up to this point that if i start losing? I will not lose it all. Thats the beauty of it. Having a way to win, and riding it for as long as it will last.

I can be wrong, but human psychology teaches us that every man believes hes thought of and done everything possible to find the solution. I have been winning and still do. I only came to share that. Im going to disappear again. Sorry, my "trolling" is not consistent lol.

But i know for a fact that each poster that has campaigned to thwart my "campaigns" initial thought was "why didnt i think of that". Then comes the internal battle. Then the reality of only being able to convince yourself and others that its mathematically impossible what im
Claiming and that if you cant do it, no way i did right? :)

Only here to share my idea and experience. Do with it as you please.

It's all just a bunch of words on a forum. Anyone can claim they win bla, bla, bla.

Here watch this....

Live keno can be beaten strieight up. I have been playing it for 10 years playing 4 spots 5 hours a day 5 days a week I'm up 400k so that can't be luck. I pick all low numbers because there is less paint on the keno balls therefore they weigh slightly less and get sucked up the tube more often. I have 15 people working for me and they are all doing well.

See how easy that fish tale is? hell my lie even has some fuzzy logic to it.


You can't provide any math or logic that supports you can beat baaccat.

Sorry that I don't believe your story.
What's important is that you do. If you can beat baccarat you should spend your time beating it and not posting about it.

It would be irresponsible for this forum not to question you since time and time again its been proven no betting system can beat baccarat. There's a challenge you can take offered by Michael Bluejay and make some extra cash if you can truly beat Baccarat.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:19:04 PM permalink
I have received letswins system.... I am still analyzing it however if he tells me it's ok I will share my thoughts....
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:31:08 PM permalink
Axel, i havent posted in this thread for 2 years before posting a few days ago. Thats not enough time to play it and not post about it? Lol
And wizard, i told you an idea about how i apply it. Not what i do. I already said i would never reveal
That


Once again. And i have said it multiple times. Baccarat can be beaten does not imply i Have beaten baccarat. It only implies i have an idea on how it can be beaten because i have used something that has worked for me longer than anything else. Hope my statement isnt misunderstood again. :)
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:49:45 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

Axel, i havent posted in this thread for 2 years before posting a few days ago. Thats not enough time to play it and not post about it? Lol
And wizard, i told you an idea about how i apply it. Not what i do. I already said i would never reveal
That


Once again. And i have said it multiple times. Baccarat can be beaten does not imply i Have beaten baccarat. It only implies i have an idea on how it can be beaten because i have used something that has worked for me longer than anything else. Hope my statement isnt misunderstood again. :)



The problem is, your idea is wrong.

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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:51:18 PM permalink
Hopefully he gives permission so that everyone else can analyze it as well....
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letswin
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:55:25 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

The problem is, your idea is wrong.

ZCore13



Well if you think my idea is wrong. Then just dont use it. The way im
Applying it? It works.
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:57:30 PM permalink
Once he gives me the go ahead and I'll elaborate on how in face it can be applied to work
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letswin
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April 23rd, 2016 at 8:59:43 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Hopefully he gives permission so that everyone else can analyze it as well....



I have no idea what it is youre expecting me to give permission on, because i never revealed my method to anyone on here. Especially not you. So im going to assume youre just trolling me, lol. Which is fine. Ill give you a head start and post what i pmed you. Its something i pmed a few other members on the forum. Im never going to
Reveal my applications, but i use over 150 different approaches/systems which i use randomly selected each day. Like Patterns. Colors. Shapes. Random, unsystematic things like that. Overall point is? I never do the same thing twice in a day. Twice in a week. Or even twice in a month. Like i said...general
Idea. :)
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April 23rd, 2016 at 9:07:31 PM permalink
https://imgur.com/a/hslVX


https://imgur.com/a/MhQYi
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letswin
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April 23rd, 2016 at 9:09:59 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

https://imgur.com/a/hslVX


https://imgur.com/a/MhQYi



What you just posted is the same general idea i shared via pm to others and in this thread more than once

I choose not to reveal my applications. Only the idea
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April 23rd, 2016 at 9:15:40 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

What you just posted is the same general idea i shared via pm to others and in this thread more than once

I choose not to reveal my applications. Only the idea



150 different ways that have an advantage over the house... That's even funnier than claiming you win every session.


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April 23rd, 2016 at 9:24:34 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

150 different ways that have an advantage over the house... That's even funnier than claiming you win every session.


ZCore13



150 different ways that applied in my certain way? Allows me to win. For years. Doesnt need to have an advantage over the house to win. Maybe to win indefinitely....but not to win

Not too hard to
Understand right? :)
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April 23rd, 2016 at 9:29:21 PM permalink
It's like my friend that tells me he never loses playing 9-5 not 9-6. Job. I said the machine is programmed based on the pay table to be 9x.xx. He said not if you know what cards to hold based on the pattern of cards that will come out on the redraw
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:17:01 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

https://imgur.com/a/hslVX


https://imgur.com/a/MhQYi



This is your system? It's gobblygook nonsense.

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April 24th, 2016 at 12:19:40 AM permalink
I can, and could beat baccarat myself... it's not worth the time, travel (to the casino I know of that offers the type of deal/cut I like) nor the EV compared to other things I do. At least I can honestly say I can beat the game, and prove it to boot... You can't prove anything, so please don't patronize me with quotes implying my imaginary ignorance to the game.




Hello Romes. May I asked what kind of deal/ cut make the bac game better? Thanks.
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:23:26 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Among half a dozen other things, this stands
out for me. This scenario would last about
a week until these guys were all using their
own money on this never fail system.

You really have to think things thru before
you start telling tall tales. How many have
PM'd him by now begging to be 'taught'
I can't even guess.



I didn't PM him but thinking PM you. I have heard you have roulette strategies.
letswin
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:42:38 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This is your system? It's gobblygook nonsense.



No. I only share my ideas. I have not and will not reveal my application/system to anyone here.
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:55:51 AM permalink
Quote: lovebacgame

I can, and could beat baccarat myself... it's not worth the time, travel (to the casino I know of that offers the type of deal/cut I like) nor the EV compared to other things I do. At least I can honestly say I can beat the game, and prove it to boot... You can't prove anything, so please don't patronize me with quotes implying my imaginary ignorance to the game.




.

you are correct however if you are claiming you can beat baccarat with a betting system (no edge sorting, counting or various proven methods ) since it's not worth your time, why don't you make it worth your time and take the MB challenge? I guarantee if you can prove you can beat Baccarat it will be worth more than you can imagine and 100x over what you think is worth your time.

But if course not ....here come the excuses.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 24th, 2016 at 1:14:46 AM permalink
Quote: lovebacgame

I didn't PM him.



Sure you did, that's a copy of a PM.
What are you trying to pull here..
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letswin
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April 24th, 2016 at 1:47:08 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

you are correct however if you are claiming you can beat baccarat with a betting system (no edge sorting, counting or various proven methods ) since it's not worth your time, why don't you make it worth your time and take the MB challenge? I guarantee if you can prove you can beat Baccarat it will be worth more than you can imagine and 100x over what you think is worth your time.

But if course not ....here come the excuses.



Axel, lovebac was quoting a post made by romes. That is not lovebacs post. Lol

Its no wonder you airheads cant keep up with the thread and need simple concepts repeated. Geeze.
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April 24th, 2016 at 1:52:39 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Sure you did, that's a copy of a PM.
What are you trying to pull here..



Youre just a troll right?

Cuz what wizard posted was a copy of a pm
Sent to me. Lovebacc did not pm.

I dont like what this thread has turned into. Ill
See you guys in another 2-3 years. :)
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April 24th, 2016 at 2:33:27 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

you are correct however if you are claiming you can beat baccarat with a betting system
But if course not ....here come the excuses.



Hmmmm Axel, Guys,
I think that was lovebacgame quoting Romes, but failing to apply the quote tags. So don't jump all over lbg for that claim.
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April 24th, 2016 at 2:51:54 AM permalink
Letswin, I'd like to express genuine interest in your 'method' You did say a few years back that you'd be happy to answer questions.
Without revealing too much, would you explain one thing to me, please?
In your original post you said very loud and clear ...

Quote: letswin

Doesn't matter what count you use, what trigger you use. If you are using any kind of betting pattern? You will lose. . . .
If you want to beat baccarat? You HAVE to use flat betting. . . .
We have, over the past 8 months, tested and tried a very effective flat betting method that has been generating us 30-80 units a day with a max draw down of 4-5 units at any given time. . .
Our bet selection is random. Our trigger is random. And our wagers are random. [?????] And all three of those change randomly. For random reasons. Nothing we do, has anything to do with banker, player, or the game itself. Yes. 100%, true randomness. And we bet every single hand. . . .
Second, don't ever use progressions. If you have to use a progression? Your system is a losing system....

I am willing to answer any questions.



So. You say pretty consistently that you are flat betting, and on every hand?
But in your recent post you say that the progression used is also random. That seems a contradiction. Did your method change? Does the size of your flat bet just vary session to session?

I KNOW that using the simplest of progressives, such as Marty, it is conceivable to win many consecutive sessions in a row, almost solely limited by your bankroll and the size of your cajoles. But you have made claims that imply you win many GAMES in succession. Surely if you can do that, then a positive progression is what you should apply.

Just showing genuine interest in something you claim to be proud of. You can PM me if you wish, but no obligation of course.
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April 24th, 2016 at 3:12:37 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Letswin, I'd like to express genuine interest in your 'method' You did say a few years back that you'd be happy to answer questions.
Without revealing too much, would you explain one thing to me, please?
In your original post you said very loud and clear ...

Quote: letswin

Doesn't matter what count you use, what trigger you use. If you are using any kind of betting pattern? You will lose. . . .
If you want to beat baccarat? You HAVE to use flat betting. . . .
We have, over the past 8 months, tested and tried a very effective flat betting method that has been generating us 30-80 units a day with a max draw down of 4-5 units at any given time. . .
Our bet selection is random. Our trigger is random. And our wagers are random. [?????] And all three of those change randomly. For random reasons. Nothing we do, has anything to do with banker, player, or the game itself. Yes. 100%, true randomness. And we bet every single hand. . . .
Second, don't ever use progressions. If you have to use a progression? Your system is a losing system....

I am willing to answer any questions.



So. You say pretty consistently that you are flat betting, and on every hand?
But in your recent post you say that the progression used is also random. That seems a contradiction. Did your method change? Does the size of your flat bet just vary session to session?

I KNOW that using the simplest of progressives, such as Marty, it is conceivable to win many consecutive sessions in a row, almost solely limited by your bankroll and the size of your cajoles. But you have made claims that imply you win many GAMES in succession. Surely if you can do that, then a positive progression is what you should apply.

Just showing genuine interest in something you claim to be proud of. You can PM me if you wish, but no obligation of course.




Ill explain more to
You via pm. Pm me.
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April 24th, 2016 at 6:20:52 AM permalink
Make sure you explain where you want him to send the check for your system.
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April 24th, 2016 at 6:50:45 AM permalink
This is why the world is the way it is with religious Islamic jihadists you can't convince them that there are not 70 virgins waiting for them if they blow themselves up, some people you just cannot convince that there is not a pattern, I just don't understand their logic at all... Think of it this way, throw 8 decks up in the air let them fall and pick them up and start dealing..... What in gods green earth created any sort of pattern?
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April 24th, 2016 at 9:09:25 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

Make sure you explain where you want him to send the check for your system.


Now Now Sabre. The guy has kindly offered to share some wisdom with me by PM and I have graciously accepted by PM. The ball is in his court.

I've already made clear to him that I'm a skeptic, but that I am going to be open minded if he reveals anything to me about the method, which he holds so dear. As a courtesy to him, I'm going to hear him out (if he chooses to share anything) without pre-judging him too much. Hostility in this thread, while understandable, has done little to encourage him to enlighten us to his wisdom. IMHO We all lose a little from that.

If he asks for anything, which I doubt, well I'll reveal that here, thus outing him as a rogue. If he does grant me some knowledge about his method, I'll respect any restrictions that he chooses to impose. Who knows, he and I might end up sharing our yachts, fast cars and holiday villas just between the two of us.

We can but try.

$:o)
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April 24th, 2016 at 9:15:21 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Think of it this way, throw 8 decks up in the air let them fall and pick them up and start dealing..... What in gods green earth created any sort of pattern?



There is, of course no pattern and that randomised shoe of cards will either favour the player or the house. But, if the player can generate the same 'random' in his head, he can create an advantage for himself. Besides, if this shoe favours the house, then as soon as it reveals itself as bad, the player can sit it out and wait till another similarly shuffled deck is served up, which will reveal itself to favour the player.

NO. of course I'm not serious!!!!!
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April 24th, 2016 at 11:43:36 AM permalink
Quote: letswin

Youre just a troll right?

Cuz what wizard posted was a copy of a pm
Sent to me. Lovebacc did not pm.

I dont like what this thread has turned into. Ill
See you guys in another 2-3 years. :)



Personal Insult for this post and, 'Airheads,' in the post prior. Three days.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:27:09 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Personal Insult for this post and, 'Airheads,' in the post prior. Three days.

Good job!
Now hopefully this thread will die for 'at least' 3 days. It was getting tiring, and not much new was being said. I would suggest that everyone let it die for at least 3 days, even if I don't always take my own advice ;-)

Of course discussion over in The Discussion part 2, well now, nuttin' wrong with that!
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:41:42 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Personal Insult for this post and, 'Airheads,' in the post prior. Three days.



Now that's a shame.. 3 days of no
free advertising for his system.
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April 24th, 2016 at 12:45:51 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

It's now 2016, I play maybe 2-3 days a week, since my unit size has grown to $250 units. I make 50-100 units a day and then stop. Some weeks? I play maybe 1-2 days. I've taught a total of 10 people how to play and I bankroll them to play for me, using my capital. They grind for me behind the shadows 4-5 days a week. Adding to my income.



I think this is great. So many people come up with a system, then fail to follow through. You built your system, now profit $2000 to $5000 per week and are able to enjoy life. Well done, you deserve all the credit and all the money. Hopefully more can follow your lead
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April 24th, 2016 at 2:04:31 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

I think this is great. So many people come up with a system, then fail to follow through. You built your system, now profit $2000 to $5000 per week and are able to enjoy life. Well done, you deserve all the credit and all the money. Hopefully more can follow your lead



Right!? The best part is, given his recent Suspension, he'll actually have a little free time to go to the casino and employ his system.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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April 28th, 2016 at 9:51:14 PM permalink
Lets see if I can sum up the accusations being made here about me, and see if any of it makes sense.

Ok, so you guys believe for the most part, I'm either really lucky, or, just straight up lying about my success in baccarat. Fine. That's whatever, cuz I can argue back and fourth with a person forever, of them telling me that I'm not doing something that I say that I am doing.

I'll drop that one. Cuz I'm not here to prove anything to anyone.

But the other things? lol. Too ludicrous to ignore. Ok, first one.....I'm being accused of claiming I beat baccarat. The title of this thread is "baccarat can be beaten". Ok, so maybe that was a little bit too straight forward...But baccarat can be beaten, in no way implies that "Baccarat has been beaten" and I'm the one that did it. No. It only implies That someone or a group of someones may have an idea of how baccarat can be beaten. And that is ONLY because that someone or someones, has used a method that has been successful for them.

System seller? lol My goodness. How, is it possible, that a person, that repeatedly states that he will NOT REVEAL HIS METHOD FOR ANY REASON, can still be remotely considered a possible system seller?

"If you have a method that works, why are you wasting time on the internet posting about it"....
I started this thread nearly three years ago. I stopped posting two years ago. I posted again, recently, april 23rd I believe. Just to update on my experience a bit. Nothing major. Yet, that gap of time, isn't enough time to use my system and not post about it. If a person finds something that works? They need to use it 24/7, and not eat, sleep, or do anything else, ...ESPECIALLY...not tell anyone else about it or they are lying and making the whole thing up. Right?

lol.

I don't care if what I'm doing is not going to win in the long run. I never said it would. I don't care if the math says what I'm doing will not work....because it's worked for me for over two years. I don't care if nothing I say makes any sense.....does it matter if its WORKING?......

I only came here to share that I CREATED A METHOD THAT HAS WORKED FOR ME FOR OVER TWO YEARS. THat's IT! I did NOT come here to say baccarat is indefinitely beatable. I did not come here to sell a system. Or to convince anyone I have the holy grail. I only came here to say...Hey, my idea lead me to create a method that works. MAYBE.....if applied in a specific way? (which I did) it can work for you too.

Obviously....I can't do that there. lol Which is fine.

I have no problem...disappearing for two more years or even longer. I did it before. :)
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April 28th, 2016 at 10:34:47 PM permalink
Your method doesn't work.
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April 28th, 2016 at 11:36:52 PM permalink
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Your method doesn't work.




Ok.

For now? It's working.

When it starts to fail? Or stop working?

I'll let you all know. :)
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April 28th, 2016 at 11:51:43 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

Ok.

For now? It's working.

When it starts to fail? Or stop working?

I'll let you all know. :)



Thanks for the updates.

Your system has worked for two years and you acknowledge that you understand that it may not work forever. Cool.

I'd like to suggest that to mitigate the fact that the longer you apply it, the more you are at risk of having that catastrophic end, that you consider only playing for a few more weeks or months. However, so as not to curtail your lifetime profits, why not hit the casinos big: Raise a bigger bankroll and ratchet up your unit size big-time. What can possibly go wrong.

Cream the casinos, then come back here for serious kudos.

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April 29th, 2016 at 12:09:27 AM permalink
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I have been playing baccarat for a few years. . . I've made over $500k and have lost over $500k (not including recent success). So I have been through the worst with this game. ...I'm only here to share an experience to encourage certain things and share advice.
. . . I have lost so much money playing baccarat before discovering what I have discovered and I have finally made all of my money back plus TONS more. . .
Using my advice, anyone can create their own winning system!


But this is just fantasy. You claim to have made over $500,000 plus TONS more.
Later you said
Quote: letswin

I have a dublinbet account that I grew to over $500k, using the max bet of $1600. I have grown my simulators to exorbitant amounts of money before heading to the casino to play live. And my live play? Has not only generated back the $500k I have lost over the years playing baccarat using losing methods, but MUCH more. .


and even later you said . . .
Quote: letswin

I don't play online with real money and I would never suggest for anyone else to do so.



Is your DublinBet account name WalterMitty by any chance? Because you seem to be confusing reality with a play money game. I won £10,000 at Monopoly once by buying random properties. No actually I did hundreds of times. Honest. Try it. Stay open minded and give it a go and you too will get rich beyond your wildest dreams. But practice lots of times first.
$;o)
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:18:46 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Thanks for the updates.

Your system has worked for two years and you acknowledge that you understand that it may not work forever. Cool.

I'd like to suggest that to mitigate the fact that the longer you apply it, the more you are at risk of having that catastrophic end, that you consider only playing for a few more weeks or months. However, so as not to curtail your lifetime profits, why not hit the casinos big: Raise a bigger bankroll and ratchet up your unit size big-time. What can possibly go wrong.

Cream the casinos, then come back here for serious kudos.

See the sig ↓↓↓↓

ps. Remember to stay hydrated.




Did you read the posts I made in the thread?

I guess not. No offense, but, I'm just going to assume you guys.....just join a thread and post without educating yourself to anything that is actually being posted or taking place in the thread.

I'll just repeat what I said....again. :)

I've been using the system for years. I don't expect any GAMBLING system to work as profoundly as it did in the beginning. Gambling systems are meant to achieve a goal. Which is generate enough money where you can live comfortably and be able to creatively invest that money to grant you financial freedom. It's like being a stripper. Not the best career choice, but, definitely a means to an end....(considering the amount of money that CAN be generated in a short period of time). I used to grind out 50-100 units a day, playing 7 days a week. The first year. Now? I settled down...invested my money. Got different income streams going. Including a team of close relatives that I taught the system to, that play, and give me kick backs every week. Using my bankroll as starting bank. I play myself, 2-3 days a week. With a much bigger unit size. Needless to say? I am up so many units, over the years? That I can take a total meltdown for a week and still be WAY ahead.....I only bring the DAILY pre-arranged amount of units with me per day...never more than that. So should I lose 2-3 days in a row...or should I get an alarming warning from my team.."hey, we lost 100 units today....things may be going the other way"....we'll all just quit. Quit while we're WAYYYY ahead. But until then? We'll keep moving forward.

I said this same exact thing almost verbatim, more than once in this thread. Hopefully...and I'm giving you guys more credit than you deserve....I don't have to repeat myself. But then again....can't expect everyone to be on the same pace. :) So I'; be ready to break it down once again if needed.
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:23:10 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: letswin

I have been playing baccarat for a few years. . . I've made over $500k and have lost over $500k (not including recent success). So I have been through the worst with this game. ...I'm only here to share an experience to encourage certain things and share advice.
. . . I have lost so much money playing baccarat before discovering what I have discovered and I have finally made all of my money back plus TONS more. . .
Using my advice, anyone can create their own winning system!


But this is just fantasy. You claim to have made over $500,000 plus TONS more.
Later you said
and even later you said . . .


Is your DublinBet account name WalterMitty by any chance? Because you seem to be confusing reality with a play money game. I won £10,000 at Monopoly once by buying random properties. No actually I did hundreds of times. Honest. Try it. Stay open minded and give it a go and you too will get rich beyond your wildest dreams. But practice lots of times first.
$;o)



Do you read what is posted before you quote it?

Dublin bet doesn't allow residents of the united states to play online with real money. So, it's already obvious, being that I do reside in the us, that the $500k live play on dublin bet? Was with a free money account. The free money account at dublin bet? The betting is graded as if it is live money as the banker and player decisions come from a camera that is recorded from live hands being dealt by a live dealer. That's like a live simulation, but not with real money. I still don't suggest anyone ever put any real money in an online casino. But as I clearly stated, it is a good place to test out your methods. Nothing to do with what you do with real money at a LAND BASED real casino.

Probably should have done some research on dublin bet before trying to accuse me of something.

Next? :)
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:29:27 AM permalink
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Did you read the posts I made in the thread? . . .educating yourself to anything that is actually being posted or taking place in the thread.


Yes. Indeed. Why I bothered beats the hell out of me. Your education would be less than worthless even if you ever added a morsel of meaning or information to it.
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....Got different income streams going. Including a team of close relatives that I taught the system to, that play, and give me kick backs every week. . . .

If nothing else, you prove that there is a sucker born every minute. May your chump close relatives cotton on and kick your ass.
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So should I lose 2-3 days in a row...or should I get an alarming warning from my team.."hey, we lost 100 units today....things may be going the other way"....we'll all just quit. Quit while we're WAYYYY ahead. But until then?


For Expletive sake. What madness is this? Teams, sessions, bad mojo!
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:34:38 AM permalink
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Quote: letswin

Did you read the posts I made in the thread? . . .educating yourself to anything that is actually being posted or taking place in the thread.


Yes. Indeed. Why I bothered beats the hell out of me. You education would be less than worthless even if you ever added a morsel of meaning or information to it.
If nothing else, you prove that there is a sucker born every minute. May your chump close relatives cotton on and kick your ass.
For Expletive sake. What madness is this? Teams, sessions, bad mojo!




You click and pick certain areas of the post to suit your fabricated punch lines? lol

That is even more ludicrous than I gave you credit for. You conveniently left out the part where I stated, immediately after the part that my relatives play for me, with MY OWN BANKROLL....but quoted just enough to suite your punchline of "there's a sucker born every minute"....as if I sold the system to them or got them running around risking their own money.

LOL

Thanks for the laugh man. I needed. Keep on with the madness. Please. You guys make me laugh. That's one of the reasons I came back. lol Gamblers HATE to hear anything about someone doing something they couldn't figure out on their own.
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:47:54 AM permalink
For posterity lest you edit your post
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Got different income streams going. Including a team of close relatives that I taught the system to, that play, and give me kick backs every week. Using my bankroll as starting bank. I play myself, 2-3 days a week. With a much bigger unit size. Needless to say? I am up so many units, over the years? That I can take a total meltdown for a week and still be WAY ahead.....I only bring the DAILY pre-arranged amount of units with me per day...never more than that. So should I lose 2-3 days in a row...or should I get an alarming warning from my team.."hey, we lost 100 units today....things may be going the other way"....we'll all just quit. Quit while we're WAYYYY ahead. But until then? We'll keep moving forward.


Kick backs must have a different meaning in your world. Would any of these definitions fit?
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/kickback.asp
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kickback or this one http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/kickback
even setting aside the 'dishonest' aspect?
Kick back does not suggest to me that they are returning just the profits from playing your own 'starting bankroll' and 'Starting bankroll' does not imply to me ongoing bankroll.
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:50:46 AM permalink
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For posterity lest you edit your post

Quote: letswin

Got different income streams going. Including a team of close relatives that I taught the system to, that play, and give me kick backs every week. Using my bankroll as starting bank. I play myself, 2-3 days a week. With a much bigger unit size. Needless to say? I am up so many units, over the years? That I can take a total meltdown for a week and still be WAY ahead.....I only bring the DAILY pre-arranged amount of units with me per day...never more than that. So should I lose 2-3 days in a row...or should I get an alarming warning from my team.."hey, we lost 100 units today....things may be going the other way"....we'll all just quit. Quit while we're WAYYYY ahead. But until then? We'll keep moving forward.


Kick backs must have a different meaning in your world. Would any of these definitions fit?
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/kickback.asp
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kickback or this one http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/kickback
even setting aside the 'dishonest' aspect?
Kick back does not suggest to me that they are returning just the profits from playing your own 'starting bankroll' and 'Starting bankroll' does not imply to me ongoing bankroll.



Really? Now semantics?

They are using my bankroll to play and give me a cut of the profits from playing MY system with MY bankroll.

I've said the same exact thing multiple times in this thread. Please keep up. I can't hold your hand across the street forever now.
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April 29th, 2016 at 12:55:59 AM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

For posterity lest you edit your post

Quote: letswin

Got different income streams going. Including a team of close relatives that I taught the system to, that play, and give me kick backs every week. Using my bankroll as starting bank. I play myself, 2-3 days a week. With a much bigger unit size. Needless to say? I am up so many units, over the years? That I can take a total meltdown for a week and still be WAY ahead.....I only bring the DAILY pre-arranged amount of units with me per day...never more than that. So should I lose 2-3 days in a row...or should I get an alarming warning from my team.."hey, we lost 100 units today....things may be going the other way"....we'll all just quit. Quit while we're WAYYYY ahead. But until then? We'll keep moving forward.


Kick backs must have a different meaning in your world. Would any of these definitions fit?
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/kickback.asp
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kickback or this one http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/kickback
even setting aside the 'dishonest' aspect?
Kick back does not suggest to me that they are returning just the profits from playing your own 'starting bankroll' and 'Starting bankroll' does not imply to me ongoing bankroll.



Really? Now semantics?

They are using my bankroll to play and give me a cut of the profits from playing MY system with MY bankroll.

I've said the same exact thing multiple times in this thread. Please keep up. I can't hold your hand across the street forever now.


They give you a cut of the profits from playing with and risking YOUR money. I get it now.
You LET them play with YOUR MONEY and when they eventually win, which inevitably they do, you share the profits with them. I don't think they share the profits with you, but that's just semantics.

ps. I wouldn't trust you to assist me in crossing an empty street.
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