Breaking the casino code.

Its a little shocking to know that many still believe that an income could be made from casinos. Systems claiming to be able to beat the odds are numerous but none could break the system in the long run. But why is that the case?

Could it be that casinos have been " Cheating" ? Even when they have an advantage in odds,could they be cheating?

Is the roulette wheel totally random and has anyone experienced 31 reds popping out consecutively on more than a few occasions?
Does the facial recognition system which casinos employ link up our faces to the amount of bets we have won or lost?
Is the outcome in roulette determined by the weight of the chips placed on the table?
Is the outcome controlled by electronics and magnets that could be controlled from a hidden room?

Talk about a Startrek setup,its definately possible to rig casino games using modern technological systems. Casinos run a business,a huge income spinner for every country. Creates employment within each country an its a perfect economic model. Why would a casino not want to "cheat" with all these economic benefits?

The odds of landing 32 straight reds on a roulette table is just too unbelievable especially when it have happened more than once. How these casinos entice the good players and the whales into specialized rooms, the so called "execution" rooms rolling out huge credit lines. The very room where the unbelievable happens,32 reds in a row.

Where are these special roulette tables develloped? China of course. " The system allows you to manipulate the roulette wheel from a hidden room. Linked to computers which calculates the weight of placed chips, an ideal suggestion is made by the computer for the best spot the ball should land on. Adjust your target profit levels after 5 spins if u need to. The best past is even card shuffler systems which synchronize card layouts to favor the dealer are sold by China manufactures.

What are the chances of anyone trying to striping the roulette table in any casino. Try doing that and security will be on you in seconds.

If we think about it, i really don't see why casinos should not use tables like these if its in the good interest of the country's tax system.

The bottom line is these casino systems are programmed and rigged and none of them are random even it its mathematically stated that the house has an slight advantage. Its never a slight advantage if the system are rigged by electronics. With facial recognition systems linked up to the players account, casinos will be able to monitor each patron"s capacity and exercise the acceleration of commitments concept on an individual basis to drive up profits to higher levels.

I would risk nothing but a $50 donation in any casino but i would risk $1000s more on sports betting site as sports betting is more of an investment than a gamble. As such, there will never be a defined system to beat any casino if everything is being controlled from the " hidden room".

Quote: mik

The system allows you to manipulate the roulette wheel from a hidden room.

At the Venetian, the "hidden room" has cookies.

Quote: Wizard

At the Venetian, the "hidden room" has cookies.

They have a craps table way back in the back of the high limit area. I asked if they operate the table, and they said only upon prior arrangement with your casino host.

The free food and treats in the high limit rooms is okay, but I actually prefer comp'd meals. I'm not sure if those are the cookies you're referring to.

I had a comp'd meal at Ellis Island today that only cost $9 if it's not comp'd and it was DELICIOUS!



The chicken parm is highly recommended there!! One of the tastier things I have had in all of Vegas!

Quote: mik

The bottom line is these casino systems are programmed and rigged and none of them are random even it its mathematically stated that the house has an slight advantage. Its never a slight advantage if the system are rigged by electronics. With facial recognition systems linked up to the players account, casinos will be able to monitor each patron"s capacity and exercise the acceleration of commitments concept on an individual basis to drive up profits to higher levels.

I would risk nothing but a $50 donation in any casino but i would risk $1000s more on sports betting site as sports betting is more of an investment than a gamble. As such, there will never be a defined system to beat any casino if everything is being controlled from the " hidden room".

Funny, I don't remember seeing you at last month's Trilateral Commission meeting.

Apart from the yummy cookies and great food,have you guys seen the boxes of tissue in those hidden rooms? Losing millions over cookies,weeping in soiled undies.

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Funny, I don't remember seeing you at last month's Trilateral Commission meeting.

I sense we have a leaker. I hope he doesn't go to Wikileaks.

Quote: mik

Could it be that casinos have been " Cheating" ?

Yes! The Bastards short pay you on everything!

Getting "Raped" on the tables, I just might do the wikileaka dance dude. You know,the one with the legs spread apart like a duck without feathers.

Quote: Wizard

At the Venetian, the "hidden room" has cookies.

Wiz - Aren't you concerned about your non-disclosure agreement, or have you and your family already gone into hiding ? From what I have seen on TV and the movies, you are supposed to throw your cell phone onto the ground now and step on it so you can't be tracked. Good luck, Amigo !

ps:

Also, I guess don't use credit cards.

"And I've got such a long way to go
To make it to the border of Mexico
So I'll ride like the wind
Ride like the wind"

I just want to see some evidence of 31 reds in a row. I would be off my rocker after seeing that a few times, as well.

A trender would be rich, while a marty would be broke.

Roulette is beaten every day using physics ...
Roulette is not random ... it just look that way when you know very little about the wheel/game ...

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Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Which one of these is random?:

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Wiz - Aren't you concerned about your non-disclosure agreement, or have you and your family already gone into hiding ?

You're right. I'm heading to the Miramar in San Felipe right now. When I get down there I'll expose how the casinos cheat in craps by using dice that are really mini drones.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Which one of these is random?: RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR or RRBBBRRRRGRRRBBBBBGBRBRRBRR?

Looks like a question from the College Board SAT.

Quote: AxelWolf

I just want to see some evidence of 31 reds in a row. I would be off my rocker after seeing that a few times, as well.

A trender would be rich, while a marty would be broke.

Why can't they switch? I've never understood that. Martingale players seem to labor under the impression that they cannot switch colors or the Martingale will fail, but the Martingale is about the likelihood of losing that many trials in a row, so it doesn't matter if you switch sides. Understanding that merely Martingaling can make one look like an idiot, I'd still have to switch to the hot color (even continuing the Martingale) to not REALLY look like a complete moke to everyone at the table losing my shirt to a trend of 31 red.

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Why can't they switch? I've never understood that. Martingale players seem to labor under the impression that they cannot switch colors or the Martingale will fail, but the Martingale is about the likelihood of losing that many trials in a row, so it doesn't matter if you switch sides. Understanding that merely Martingaling can make one look like an idiot, I'd still have to switch to the hot color (even continuing the Martingale) to not REALLY look like a complete moke to everyone at the table losing my shirt to a trend of 31 red.

Obviously red is due so a martier must stick with it. That's why martingale works so much better on blackjack.

Quote: Mission146

Why can't they switch? I've never understood that. Martingale players seem to labor under the impression that they cannot switch colors or the Martingale will fail, but the Martingale is about the likelihood of losing that many trials in a row, so it doesn't matter if you switch sides. Understanding that merely Martingaling can make one look like an idiot, I'd still have to switch to the hot color (even continuing the Martingale) to not REALLY look like a complete moke to everyone at the table losing my shirt to a trend of 31 red.

Then it would be Baccarat......

There's only one flaw in the theory it's called plausible denyability. It would make more sense to me if the casino knew nothing. All rigs would have to be programmed by a 3rd party like the table manufacturer or the mother board creator. The claims are plausible, but easily deniable.

Quote: AverageJOE

Roulette is beaten every day using physics ...
Roulette is not random ... it just look that way when you know very little about the wheel/game ...

Did you know that the roulette ball draws away from the magnet. take a sub woofer speaker and place it on the pool table and slowly roll the Q ball toward it and watch it move away from the magnet. Roulette can easily be fixed and not random like they say.

Two days ago, I watched a roulette table as a dealer at the Silverton spun the 8. The 8 was one of only three numbers not covered. I jokingly made the claim about the dealer's skill. I had no money on the felt just watching (but sitting).

The money was being bet, and 11 was the tallest stack. She said bet the eleven, and spun the ball. Eleven's coming she said. I laughed and I said, "if the eleven hits I will throw in a $30 dealer hand-in." Again no bets, no cash, no chips anywhere in sight.

I lost $30 on that offer. This was just two or three days ago. Dealer was elated.

I then jokingly made the claim to the remaining players as I walked away, "she knows what she's doing."

Of COURSE it's just luck, folks.

I wouldn't call it an "open secret", but it's close. If it is, it's intrusive and distracts us for the main plot. I was looking for other forms of tropes, specifically tropes employed by casinos. The best example I can see is the payback sign.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GamblingTropes

Quote: Wizard

When I get down there I'll expose how the casinos cheat in craps by using dice that are really mini drones.

I knew it ! The CIA IS involved ! Ever since the real John Boehner was kidnapped and replaced by a robot with very a very poor artificial intelligence program, I've had my suspicions. And don't get me started on William Bennet.....

The problem is that I really thought that online was could not be rigged (Absolute Poker) and that no behemoth site would be stupid enough to use its players
money for marketing (FullTiltPoker).

Talking about the Venitian, we shall never forget that in 2004, the Venetian agreed to pay a $1 million penalty to settle a 12-count Gaming Control Board complaint. One of the 12 complaints alleged the hotel had held a drawing for a Mercedes-Benz that was rigged to be won by a high roller who had lost a large amount in the casino. The executives involved were fired, (Wikipedia).

I agree that probably 99.99999 of the plays are not rigged, but it is important not to be too blind....

Ponpon

I start to think no limit ring games are rigged, anytime I hit a set someone has a flash, and it the same people and dealers, I think they figured how to rob people.

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I agree that probably 99.99999 of the plays are not rigged, but it is important not to be too blind....

True, but always be wary of using Enforcement Rulings as support data. Some things slide for a variety of reasons, many things are adjudicated without full hearings or reports ... and some enforcement action is blatantly absurd.

At any non-gambling event picking some cute little girl from the crowd to draw the ticket is just fine ... but when one guy did that in Vegas boy did the regulators slap those knuckles but good.

We all laugh at various comments. Dealers in the poker room often engage in banter and then immediately deal just what was requested by some player. When other players join in on the "deal "x" and we will tip you big" scheme, the dealers are the first ones to remind the players that if the dealer really did have that ability not one of those players would be sitting at the table. All the seats would be taken by spouses, friends and relatives of the dealer!

Face recognition at the roulette table? Yeah, like some sweet young thing can't get a guy's name and address much faster and cheaper than a computer system!

31 Reds? On the annunciator perhaps... but probably not on the wheel itself. Unless, of course, I was there and had a Black fixation.