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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:26:44 AM permalink
In the game of Baccarat, Consider the following:

1) I see an 8 deck shoe of cards showing a streak of 14 Bankers. (I have seen Streaks as high as 23 Bankers but it doesn't happen all the time).

2) I also see that an 8 deck shoe consistently will show streaks of 6 Bankers / Players.

3) Dragon bet & Tie Bet is out of the question because of the High casino Odds.

4) It is highly unlikely to deal 75 out of 75 Players / Bankers in a Row. (But a consistent 3 in a row is believable)

5) It is not recommended to Parlay the full amount of your winnings 6 times in a row even though there are many tables that get streaks of 6. (It does look good to start with $25 to 50 to 100 to 200 to 400 to 800 and cash out a cool $1600.00 after your 6th win)

6) Set a daily limit to what you want to make and how much time you want to invest. (a $25.00 bettor is not likely to make $10,000 in a day)

7) Remember that most Casinos are open 24hrs per day. Don't gamble if you are tired.

Please feel free to add your thoughts and comments and what you consider in the game of Baccarat.

Please ask/post any questions related to Baccarat. I've played the game for many years and may have that perfect answer for you.

Cheers!!!
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September 22nd, 2013 at 1:46:29 AM permalink
Awesome post, gr8player...er, I mean...varmenti. Are these shoes made for talking?
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September 22nd, 2013 at 2:00:48 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Awesome post, gr8_ayer...er, I mean...varmenti. Are these shoes made for talking?

Certainly no one would pull anything like that
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 22nd, 2013 at 7:36:15 AM permalink
Yep, streaks happen. Too bad they're random and not at all predictable, with past results in no way affecting future hands, so there's no way to know they're coming.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 8:21:59 AM permalink
Watch for streaks. Thanks.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 8:51:41 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

2) I also see that an 8 deck shoe consistently will show streaks of 6 Bankers / Players.

Just ignore those that do not want to discuss your betting system and playing methods by just saying it will not work.
The Wizard set up this forum so these things can be discussed openly.
I will use data (and math sometimes)

what do you mean by "consistently will show"

I have simulation data from 10 million 8 deck shoes (13,14 card ribbon)
showing the
probability of a Banker streak of 6 or more to be about 45.5%
For Player: 41.5%
so for either in one shoe
45.5% + 41.5% - 18.9% = 68.1%
or slightly more than 2 out of 3 shoes have those events

1 out of 3 NOT having these events seems to be not very consistent IMO

how large is your actual playing sample size
that may have made you come to this conclusion

thank you for sharing
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September 22nd, 2013 at 9:00:40 AM permalink
Nice post 7craps, leaves no wiggle room at all.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 9:24:27 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

I have simulation data from 10 million 8 deck shoes (13,14 card ribbon)
showing the
probability of a Banker streak of 6 or more to be about 45.5%
For Player: 41.5%
so for either in one shoe
45.5% + 41.5% - 18.9% = 68.1%
or slightly more than 2 out of 3 shoes have those events

1 out of 3 NOT having these events seems to be not very consistent IMO


Sounds a lot like those who bet two of the 2:1 bets (dozens or columns) on roulette. "We've got more than half of it covered, so we're winners for sure!" It's amazing the casino is still in business.
Why are you combining the streak probabilities of both the Player and Banker (opposing bets)?
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September 22nd, 2013 at 9:36:12 AM permalink
Quote: rob45


Why are you combining the streak probabilities of both the Player and Banker (opposing bets)?



The system that is being touted involves betting both sides at the same time. Yep, so we're starting from a good place...
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September 22nd, 2013 at 10:34:27 AM permalink
Sunday, Sept. 23rd 1:24

Just finished another session at Fallsview Casino.

Played 3 Shoes since 10am and made out very well.

1st shoe for those of you who were also there would have noticed the starting 10am shoe turned out very good showing multiple streaks of 4 bankers followed by a couple BPBPbp chops and ending with streak of 8 Players. Profit made for that shoe was pretty good (1000 buyin > 1775.00 Payout = 775 profit. not bad for 1 hr.

2nd shoe started chopping right away untill 35 hands then hit streak of 6 bankers followed by chop then a couple 4 streaks and ending with 7 players. The 1000.00 buyin dropping drastically at the beginning had brought back just over 900 ending in a small loss of 100.00 for that 1hr session.

3rd shoe was brutal. started really nice with bank streak of 6 followed shortly after with Player run of 5, then went to Chopping all through the shoe. even though was in profit at the start. ended with just under 900.00 for that session.

Tommorow is yet another day.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 10:46:10 AM permalink
Hello 7craps, What I mean by Consistently is, in the long term of playing many sessions of Baccarat, many shoes will show runs of 6 Banker/Players throughout the day. (Many see 8-10, but thats not accurate and certainly not something to reference when calculating Consistency (Continuous winning) in the game of Baccarat.

In my 25 + years in Gambling and playing many of the games, I've noticed for example

in Blackjack an average streak / Run of 3 but not much runs of 5 or 6 in a row.

In Roulette I notice many runs of 3 in a row but very few games showing runs of 6 or more.

In Craps same thing playing Pass/Don't pass showing not much more than runs of 4-5 in a row.

All though many people may not notice that in the game of Sic Bo there are many runs of 5 of any number that comes in a row and many times I will see runs of Example #1 comes out 13 times in a row. But the Game is not consistent with Runs to allow one to calculate a betting formula to show Profit 75% of the time.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 10:57:41 AM permalink
Random is a Very Over ODD word in the gambling world. because even random = Patterns

for example when you flip a coin 70 times. we know its nearly impossible for tails to show 70 times in a row. but after many flips you begin to notice... Hmmm tails comes up 3 in a row at least 9 times on average in 70 flips. or 4 in a row will show up on average 5 times. and a run of five will show at least once. and so on.

By knowing this along with physically seeing runs of 15 and 20 (USED as end result) One can actually create a formula no matter how random the outcome.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 10:59:12 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti


By knowing this along with physically seeing runs of 15 and 20 (USED as end result) One can actually create a formula no matter how random the outcome.



Nope. Not at all, actually. But everything up to this part was right.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:02:24 AM permalink
Hello Rob45. Sorry to bust your bubble, but Roulette is not a very nice game. covering 2 3rds of the wheel, is actually the same as covering 24 out of 38 numbers and then losing 23 out of the 24 numbers covered. The odds are so far against you. But it is a fun game to play for entertaining the wife. Cheers!!!
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:04:49 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Hello Rob45. Sorry to bust your bubble, but Roulette is not a very nice game. covering 2 3rds of the wheel, is actually the same as covering 24 out of 38 numbers and then losing 23 out of the 24 numbers covered. The odds are so far against you. But it is a fun game to play for entertaining the wife. Cheers!!!



Do you really not understand that he was mocking you and saying that your method is just as foolish as playing roulette that way?
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:05:56 AM permalink
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Nope. Not at all, actually. But everything up to this part was right.



what a person sees is real. If I hear of someone saying example Banker came up 23 times in yesterdays shoe. I find it hard to beleive without seeing.

But when I see a streak of 15, I know it is possible... Not on a consistent level but Possible and more likely will happen again.

This is what I mean by using that number (15) as an end result in a formula to calculate not consistent law of average... but somewhat a Goal to shoot for.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:09:36 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

what a person sees is real. If I hear of someone saying example Banker came up 23 times in yesterdays shoe. I find it hard to beleive without seeing.

But when I see a streak of 15, I know it is possible... Not on a consistent level but Possible and more likely will happen again.

This is what I mean by using that number (15) as an end result in a formula to calculate not consistent law of average... but somewhat a Goal to shoot for.



OK, so what's your formula. Keep in mind that it should be able to be applied meaningfully to future shoes as well, otherwise the exercise is utterly pointless.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:11:11 AM permalink
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The system that is being touted involves betting both sides at the same time. Yep, so we're starting from a good place...



There are many ways to bet from seeing what is shown on the board. Betting both sides ensures a true streak, even though you risk losing commission on the first bet when betting Banker. for example if you take away the top line from the display board you will notice that 90% of the shoes look terrible showing consistent runs of Two.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:13:58 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

775 profit. not bad for 1 hr.


Quote: varmenti

25 + years in Gambling


If you don't mind my asking, I assume you haven't been winning 775 per hour for 25 years. How many years did you play before you figured out how to beat the games?
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:15:46 AM permalink
Just wanted to add a couple more things like:

8) don't fall for "Betting the Martingale" it may make you a couple bucks but will never put you in an income bracket to retire anytime soon.

9) betting 25.00 or any amout and not increasing your bet by at least 30% will never bring you any closer to retirement in six or 7 figure income.

Quote: varmenti

In the game of Baccarat, Consider the following:

1) I see an 8 deck shoe of cards showing a streak of 14 Bankers. (I have seen Streaks as high as 23 Bankers but it doesn't happen all the time).

2) I also see that an 8 deck shoe consistently will show streaks of 6 Bankers / Players.

3) Dragon bet & Tie Bet is out of the question because of the High casino Odds.

4) It is highly unlikely to deal 75 out of 75 Players / Bankers in a Row. (But a consistent 3 in a row is believable)

5) It is not recommended to Parlay the full amount of your winnings 6 times in a row even though there are many tables that get streaks of 6. (It does look good to start with $25 to 50 to 100 to 200 to 400 to 800 and cash out a cool $1600.00 after your 6th win)

6) Set a daily limit to what you want to make and how much time you want to invest. (a $25.00 bettor is not likely to make $10,000 in a day)

7) Remember that most Casinos are open 24hrs per day. Don't gamble if you are tired.

Please feel free to add your thoughts and comments and what you consider in the game of Baccarat.

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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:23:28 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Just wanted to add a couple more things like:

8) don't fall for "Betting the Martingale" it may make you a couple bucks but will never put you in an income bracket to retire anytime soon.

9) betting 25.00 or any amout and not increasing your bet by at least 30% will never bring you any closer to retirement in six or 7 figure income.



Sooooo...pressing on wins is the key to success, but pressing on losses is not good? I'm going to have to block this thread now, before I say something that'll get me suspended.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 11:27:10 AM permalink
Quote: gr8varmenti said:

Just wanted to add a couple more things like:

8) don't fall for "Betting the Martingale" it may make you a couple bucks but will never put you in an income bracket to retire anytime soon.

9) betting 25.00 or any amout and not increasing your bet by at least 30% will never bring you any closer to retirement in six or 7 figure income.


You forgot #10:

10) Go back to ATM after steps 1-9 fail.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 12:09:14 PM permalink
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Sooooo...pressing on wins is the key to success, but pressing on losses is not good? .



There goes the cat again, he's out of the bag.
These winning system guys never tell you how
to not press on losses, even though they must
do it constantly.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 12:31:38 PM permalink
Here's the surefire way to win:

1. find a lone asian woman not betting at all but sitting at the table

2. buyin and start playing

3. after a while she'll start betting, bet the same way

4. once she sits out again ask her which one's gonna win. she won't bet on it but you'll win from it.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 2:43:37 PM permalink
Exactly that! Never press when you lose. Id like to find out how to post my pics from the casino on here?
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:02:06 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Exactly that! Never press when you lose.



Face, meet palm.

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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:17:17 PM permalink
Don't worry rdw4potus, your probably a young Go getter type person who is new to the gambling world... Keep reading the posts and don't respond... eventually you will get it and it will all come clear to you after about 10 years in the business.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:19:14 PM permalink
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:21:06 PM permalink
Believe it or not djatc you have something there and its called " a Strategy that works for you" but keep in mind, Those that play by intuition and luck is what keeps the Casinos in Business and growing drastically. But you are correct... many people follow the winners if they have no direction themselves... and that is smart.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:22:20 PM permalink
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Don't worry rdw4potus, your probably a young Go getter type person who is new to the gambling world....



You must have a crystal ball, that's him all right.
A fresh faced kid, new on the block.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:23:12 PM permalink
Ibeatyouraces... This is not a "System" like people like to title. Open your Mind and don't assume something that works well be labeled as a system.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:32:25 PM permalink
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:34:03 PM permalink
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Certainly no one would pull anything like that



It's hard to believe that Martingale players will bet 25, if lose 50, if lose 100, if lose 200, if lose 400, if lose 800... wait a minute... already just 1575.00 after 6 lose in a row... OMG just to win $25.00 (Forget about it man!!!!)

Too aggressive > 25 if win 50,if win 100, if win 200, if win 400, if win 800 ... Wait a minute.... Now your betting possitive... but if you take a moment to see... you are giving the Casino 5 chances to win there money back after a win.

to meek... bet 25, if win, bet 25, if win, bet 25... win or lose bet 25. (Just give your bankroll to the casino and say Thank you for saving me the time)

A good start... bet 25 if win bet 35, if win bet 50, if win Start over since the Consistent run of 3 in a row of B/ P's

But as we all know by now... betting is just a part of it. Money management, a positive attitude along with short term goals complete the recipe.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:40:02 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Money management, a positive attitude along with short term goals complete the recipe.



For disaster, I agree. What we're witnessing here is
a kitchen table player, someone who has never
risked a dime in a real casino. The gambling boards
are full of these guys, experts on passing wind and
not much else.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:44:10 PM permalink
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Do you really not understand that he was mocking you and saying that your method is just as foolish as playing roulette that way?



As a new member to this forum, I quickly learned to ignore the jokers and let them eventually drift away. The real Players will tick around and might pickup on some tricks from us old guys. I'm quite content with my gambling methods and find them very profitable for me. I don't mind to share my tricks because there is tons of money and many Casinos. I will never charge any money for my Methods. I make enough from the casinos and it puts a smile on my face to educate even one person to be as profitable in Gaming as myself.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:46:21 PM permalink
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Watch for streaks. Thanks.



If you watch for streaks, you'll be already missing the boat. Play the game from the start and already be in the streaks when they happen.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 3:57:44 PM permalink
I posted My method on here yesterday, did you not write it down? rdw4potus

Try this at home before attempting at any Casino, just to build total confidence for yourself.

1) go to the local store and buy 8 decks of cards or better yet simply download a simple Baccarat Software from internet.
2) get yourself some Casino Chips... Don't be cheap... get the ones like the Casinos have so you can get the feel for Chip Handling.
3) Draw on a small cardboard sheet Two Boxes and label one BANKER and another PLAYER. (Don't worry about Tie or Dragon "Sucker" Bets)

When you start to play at home you will notice a nice flowing pattern of betting and how Both sides will compliment each other.

The method I will post here can be used as a Partners or a single person betting Both sides.

*Please note that the methods I show/post on here are always Free. so if you find something similar on the internet that works for you... God Bless!!!
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:07:12 PM permalink
Hello gpac1377, in response to your question. In my many years of gambling, winning and losing and learning from my personal mistakes, I catch certain patterns that repeat over the years. I can't remember all of the things I learn but I do try to emphasize Patterns that are repetitious just to have it written and known to others. I've won many times and lost many times playing many different games.

Not saying the 775 is every hour, because that was just one shoe that started runs early in the game. I refer to these wins as Sessions. you can never predict an hourly income from gambling. you actually have to play every day winning and losing to come up with a short term average.

I went back to Fallsview Casino at 4PM today and hit a starting table and ended my session for that table in under 15 minutes resulting in a 500.00 Profit.

Table stats
BPBBBBBBBBP

My session ended with my 200.00 per table goal was reached and also run of 8 profit 500.00 ending at Player. Be nice if I can upload Pictures.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:09:32 PM permalink
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If you watch for streaks, you'll be already missing the boat. .



I was being sarcastic. Facepalm AGAIN..
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:12:44 PM permalink
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For disaster, I agree. What we're witnessing here is
a kitchen table player, someone who has never
risked a dime in a real casino. The gambling boards
are full of these guys, experts on passing wind and
not much else.



EvenBob, maybe someday you may take a trip to Fallsview Casino and eat those words. Obviously, you have no idea what is and what is not in the world of gambling. But no worries, you will learn if you keep at it.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:19:25 PM permalink
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You forgot #10:

10) Go back to ATM after steps 1-9 fail.



OK I will agree 100% with Beethoven9th on that comment.

These things to consider only work with Baccarat, I do not wish anyone to try on any other games.

Baccarat is the only Game I play and Know. So please Keep a good head on your shoulders when Gambling.

STEP 10) LEAVE the Bank Card at Home. JUST bring your Bank roll. or do not go with what you can not afford to lose.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:20:56 PM permalink
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Those that play by intuition and luck is what keeps the Casinos in Business and growing drastically.


So the guy whose "winning system" consists of money management is now chastising someone else about their play??? LOL
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:27:34 PM permalink
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You must have a crystal ball, that's him all right.
A fresh faced kid, new on the block.



No crystal ball needed. just the vibe I catch from his/her comment.

Question for you EvenBob? How to upload pictures to add to my posts.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:29:19 PM permalink
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Money management, a positive attitude along with short term goals complete the recipe.

So that's all it takes to break a casino? A positive attitude & money management? Well I'll be damned...


Quote: gr8varmenti

My session ended with my 200.00 per table goal was reached and also run of 8 profit 500.00 ending at Player. Be nice if I can upload Pictures.

Yep, because we all know that a picture of chips is absolute proof. lol
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:37:55 PM permalink
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So the guy whose "winning system" consists of money management is now chastising someone else about their play??? LOL



Nope,I'm just telling it like it is Beethoven9th.
Gambling on a professional level has nothing to do with luck or intuition.

Learn from the pro's man.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:43:06 PM permalink
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Gambling on a professional level has nothing to do with luck or intuition.

Learn from the pro's man.


A professional who wins because he has a "positive attitude"? LOL!
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:45:28 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

So that's all it takes to break a casino? A positive attitude & money management? Well I'll be damned...


Yep, because we all know that a picture of chips is absolute proof. lol



Now-a-days it seams difficult to prove anything, pics or no pics.

Beethoven9th, you seam to be giving me an impression that you like to take short cuts in the world of gambling. yes?

These are comments you should post in General discussions. If you have a question that is related to Baccarat, simply ask it here. but if you have general questions about Money management or something else, then I would recommend asking in the general forums.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:48:05 PM permalink
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A professional who wins because he has a "positive attitude"? LOL!



OK i'm gonna start referring some members on here as "Secret Handshake A$$holes" soon.
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:49:15 PM permalink
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OK i'm gonna start referring some members on here as "Secret Handshake A$$holes" soon.



Great! Then you'll be forcibly shut up for a few days. Please do that now...
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September 22nd, 2013 at 4:52:47 PM permalink
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Great! Then you'll be forcibly shut up for a few days. Please do that now...



Guys, can we please keep this thread Baccarat Related and stop criticizing each other for no purpose.

If you have a Baccarat related question, please feel free to ask.
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