estebanrey
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October 5th, 2012 at 6:45:28 AM permalink
OK so I know the maths say the chance is exactly the same but imagine these two scenarios.

A) I'm playing on zero edge table with no zeros, I cover every single straight up number except number 14 on the table with a £1 (so each spin I'm risking losing £35 and winning £36 - or a £1 profit) and spin this 1 billion times.

B) Exactly the same as above but instead of sticking to 14 as the uncovered number I change it each spin to a number.

Now, I know mathematically the odds of me hitting that uncovered number in either case is 1 in 36 on every spin and the number of spins doesn't affect this statistical fact but there's just something in my brain that won't let go of the mindset that the number 14 has to come up sometime meaning if I don't change the number I'll eventually land on it but if I am changing the numbers all the time I could keep missing it.

Again, I'll stress that I know that is rubbish and mathematically both scenarios have the same chance of losing but it is one of those weird things your brain does. I guess the only real question from this is superstition a bad thing if mathematically what you're doing is the same as not being superstitious.
AZDuffman
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October 5th, 2012 at 6:50:09 AM permalink
Superstition is only bad if you let it drive your play to make silly decisions. If you are going to bet X anyways and enjoy rotating red to black more than just playing red there is zero harm. Just do not delude yourself into thinking it is better, or put more than you wanted to play because "red is due." It sounds like you know the difference so I would say you are OK.
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NickyDim
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October 5th, 2012 at 7:03:32 AM permalink
What are the odd of the same number coming up twice in a row? I know with each spin the odds are exactly the same for each number, but if the odds of the same number repeating is way up there, then maybe the number you omit is always the last number to come in.
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estebanrey
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October 5th, 2012 at 7:06:51 AM permalink
Quote: NickyDim

What are the odd of the same number coming up twice in a row? I know with each spin the odds are exactly the same for each number, but if the odds of the same number repeating is way up there, then maybe the number you omit is always the last number to come in.



Don't fully understand what you mean but to answer your first question the odds of ANY number coming up twice is 1 in 36, the odds of one pre-selected specific number coming up twice in a row is 1 in 1296.*

*Odds based on exactly two spins.
NickyDim
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October 5th, 2012 at 7:11:25 AM permalink
If the odds of a (any) number repeating is 36-1 then forget what I was trying to say. If the odds of the same number repeating was higher then you bet against the number repeating.
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dwheatley
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October 5th, 2012 at 7:17:53 AM permalink
It's the same, so it doesn't matter. Being superstitious here won't hurt you.

The more interesting question is why the fudge does our brain do that to us? I have a book that tries to explain things like confirmation biases and other pattern detection and interpretation problems via the dopamine chemical reward cycle. But even if we understood it, what could we do about it?

Listen to the math when it comes to most casino gambling. Your emotional / gut instinct is only useful at the poker table.
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