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December 16th, 2015 at 1:36:22 PM permalink
1) Anyone that lurks these forums been here yet? Just opened Dec. 9. Will be visiting this weekend, the 18-20.
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December 16th, 2015 at 6:00:55 PM permalink
I haven't yet. If you had searched the forum, you would likely have found this one-post thread.
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December 16th, 2015 at 6:55:31 PM permalink
Ah, thanks!
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December 16th, 2015 at 10:03:42 PM permalink
Been there
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December 17th, 2015 at 7:14:24 AM permalink
I have not been there either, but I am planning a Biloxi trip next month and may have to stop by and take a look. Their website is saying they are honoring competitors' free play coupons until the end of the year. I also thought I saw a $500 slot loss rebate promo, but I don't see it on their website any more. I wonder if they pulled it.

I also read a review on Tripadvisor from last week where it looks like they didn't quite have parking figured out. Hopefully, they have fixed it.

Hope you have a good trip, Ukaserex!

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Can I assume this said "Paytables are not great..." before your autocorrect got a hold of it? :)
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December 17th, 2015 at 10:18:51 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I have not been there either, but I am planning a Biloxi trip next month and may have to stop by and take a look. Their website is saying they are honoring competitors' free play coupons until the end of the year. I also thought I saw a $500 slot loss rebate promo, but I don't see it on their website any more. I wonder if they pulled it.

I also read a review on Tripadvisor from last week where it looks like they didn't quite have parking figured out. Hopefully, they have fixed it.

Hope you have a good trip, Ukaserex!

Can I assume this said "Paytables are not great..." before your autocorrect got a hold of it? :)



Re: $500 loss rebate. I saw that on their website 2 days ago, when y'all started talking about this. I don't see it now, so I called and talked to their player's club just now. The woman (Annette) says it is still in effect, and will be until Dec. 30th, as previously advertised.

The loss rebate is up to $500 in your first 24 hours. It will be rebated in 2 equal amounts on separate days later, dates of which they haven't given their reps. Mailers estimated to arrive 2 weeks after you earn the play will contain vouchers. The vouchers will be valid for a 4 week period. She did not know if they would be overlapping or even adjacent dates.
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December 17th, 2015 at 10:27:28 AM permalink
I was told it will not be overlapping and not exactly adjacent so it would require two trips
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December 17th, 2015 at 12:28:10 PM permalink
Those evil marketers. A guy loses $500 and they want him to come back twice ...I wonder why!

I get it - I know why. But, it just seems dirty.
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December 17th, 2015 at 5:04:08 PM permalink
Quote: ukaserex

Those evil marketers. A guy loses $500 and they want him to come back twice ...I wonder why!

I get it - I know why. But, it just seems dirty.



No more dirty than a guy losing $500 and getting sent two $50 Free Play offers...lol
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December 17th, 2015 at 5:38:03 PM permalink
You are not an AP if you fly to a casino 3 times at $500 round trip each time to complete a $500 loss rebate.
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December 17th, 2015 at 6:26:58 PM permalink
That's funny
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December 17th, 2015 at 11:37:42 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

You are not an AP if you fly to a casino 3 times at $500 round trip each time to complete a $500 loss rebate.



Yeah when I heard about this, I thought, heck maybe my gf and could have drove another 5 hrs from tunica for this if we knew. But then we would have had to drive 10 hrs back twice if we lost. :-/
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December 18th, 2015 at 12:21:47 AM permalink
It's intended for locals and that's why it's done that way- no benefit to anyone else- it's worth 240- 250 so 120-125 each pick up is hardly worth the flight or the drive and they did it that way on purpose I wouldn't bother
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December 18th, 2015 at 7:03:57 AM permalink
Well, maybe if the slot host bought your plane tickets....
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December 18th, 2015 at 7:18:00 AM permalink
You think a slot host is going to buy your ticket if you are worried about a 500 loss rebate worth 250 at max/. For airfare 80 percent of casinos if not more are looking for a 10k loss - even if you found one that did 5k not sure what the point of worrying about the 500 loss rebate at that point is
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December 21st, 2015 at 11:25:24 AM permalink
Well, my own preliminary opinion of the Scarlet Pearl:

Those folks are definitely unprepared for the onslaught of players. Their players club had a wait of what must have been an hour or more.

I told a floor supervisor that they had to know there was going to be a crowd; wouldn't the casino do better with those people gambling instead of waiting in line for a card? She got my card for me - essentially skipping ahead of all those people. I didn't ask her to, either. I asked if we could do so online, and have them mail me a card. I guess she wanted to impress. She did, sort of, but I felt badly for all those people who were still waiting. It is nice having them match the players club tier; maybe that's why she wanted to impress - she thought I was some kind of high roller. I don't think I'd qualify for that at a casino this size.

There seems to be a good variety of video poker. I was disappointed in two things:

The pay tables for .25 and $1 JoB - competitive for the area with 5/8, but I was really hoping for a 6/8, or 5/9 or possibly a 6/9. No such luck.

The truly ridiculous thing - even at $5, 10, $25 per credit, no 6/9, the same 5/8 pay table.

I tried to explain to an attendant in the high limit area that with that pay table, given the odds, we're all better off playing quarters. There's no advantage to playing the higher coin values if the pay tables don't reflect the increase in risk. In a sense, they do, with bigger payouts, but we're risking more money.
Bah, I can't really explain it clearly, but we need a larger bank roll and have to risk a lot more money for the same pay table - that just doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something?

I think for $5 per credit or more, Hard Rock is the place to go; at least they have 6/9. (so does IP, now that I think of it. But, I like the music better at Hard Rock)
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December 21st, 2015 at 12:07:27 PM permalink
Thanks for the report, Ukaserex! I've booked the IP for a few days next month and was wondering if the Scarlet Pearl would be worth a visit while I'm out there. Hopefully things will calm down by then.

Did you happen to check the table games selection/minimums?
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December 21st, 2015 at 12:12:06 PM permalink
Actually, I didn't - but I can investigate this coming weekend and give an update.

My best guess - they will have a $5 min for blackjack as well as the other popular games - 3-card poker and Mississippi stud.

Bring your free play coupons for other casinos, if you have them. They may not take those that are out of the area, but they will honor the local ones. (or did I say that already?)

Are there any other details anyone else would like me to find out about?
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December 21st, 2015 at 12:34:17 PM permalink
I went to the grand opening at SP and stayed 2 nights. Craps tables good.. Won $900 overall on craps. 4 tables, $5 and $10 min. Have automatic buys on 4 and 10 at $10 bets, so it pays $19. 5 and 9 auto buys at $20 level. I just played my pass-odds betting scheme and did good overall.
IP nearby is now bad, talked with several regulars and no good rolls for days.
They do have some bugs to work out such as room keys not working etc, but gambling good at Scarlett Pearl. Buffet just average, and no quick sandwich shop which they need. Rooms nice with floor to ceiling windows and big walkin shower and large tv.
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December 21st, 2015 at 4:40:57 PM permalink
They are way behind in the food area- terrible selection buffet is sub par at best - no quick eats- STAY AWAY FROM UNDER OAK- a breakfast restaurant without even fresh oj for breakfast- pay tables are bad
Staff friendly rooms friendly
But they have a major pai how issue I'm about to post a thread about
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December 22nd, 2015 at 9:06:57 AM permalink
Lot of familiar faces, even an ex Beau Rivage dealer. Avoided the one hour players club line by having card made at craps table. Next night, 3AM, no line and I showed a second tier card from another casino and they will match tiers. Just made diamond at Harrah's so I will try to reupgrade next trip!
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December 22nd, 2015 at 10:20:31 AM permalink
deMango, talk more about one casino matching other casino's card levels.
I would love to hear, and all are invited to chime in of course, interesting topic on several levels.
Thanks!
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December 22nd, 2015 at 11:43:40 AM permalink
Well, I can attest - I am Black Card Prime at The Palace, and they matched my tier.

I can't quite recall all the perks - but I believe they are giving 1.5X comps - which is always helpful and welcome.
I think there was a discount also, at their gift shops.

I had actually thought about making this suggestion to the CEO of Scarlet Pearl over LinkedIn, but couldn't quite imagine the benefits for the casino. It seems like a crazy idea. May as well have a period where certain players are trying to earn their tier - and I have no doubts some people do spend a lot of money chasing those tiers.

Only they can really tell if it will be worthwhile. It could be clever, I suppose. Most slot hosts have to sign a non-compete for 1-2 years, so this way they can entice the players that game more often (or with more money) with the tier match. I don't know how effective it will be; I think you'd have to be unhappy where you were playing to make a switch.
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January 12th, 2016 at 2:37:52 PM permalink
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Just made diamond at Harrah's so I will try to reupgrade next trip!



Did go back on the 31st and missed out on $100 promo chip match from Hard Rock. Drats! But they upgraded me another tier for my diamond card at Harrah's for what it's worth. Got my first offers in the mail; two nights free and $205 promo chips weekly. Get there on a Monday and double dip on promo chips as the next week starts on Tuesday!

For those who remember the Golden Nugget early offers, this sounds a lot like it. Hugh (for Biloxi) promo chip offers that will dwindle as time passes.
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January 13th, 2016 at 10:51:20 AM permalink
DeMango - $205 promo chips? Where? Hard Rock? What level of play required for that?
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January 14th, 2016 at 3:04:12 AM permalink
I'm sure my average bet was $50 for 4 hours, twice in 3 days. Scarlet Pearl. HR was offering me $100 weekly in December.
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January 24th, 2016 at 8:16:32 PM permalink
The $500 loss rebate for new players has been extended to Jan. 31.
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January 25th, 2016 at 10:46:09 PM permalink
My second trip there was surprising for the amount of patronage. They have definitely sucked Biloxi business. Stayed there and their rooms are top notch, comparable to the new tower at Hard Rock. Keurig coffee makers with free bottled water and Tarrocco bath products, a winning combination for me.
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January 25th, 2016 at 10:51:51 PM permalink
Maybe you had a different experience- I felt their suites were crappy- with no balcony at all- the tv placement in the bedroom of the suites was hard if not impossible to watch- not even close to the hard rock suites- The elevators were very slow- and the walk to the tables from the rooms was as not all that close/ factor that in with the pool being a nice walk across the street and through valet parking along with a breakfast eatery which did not even have fresh squeezed orange juice and I would not mention it in the same breath as hard rock which has absolute TOP notch restaurants and great rooms
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January 25th, 2016 at 11:00:23 PM permalink
Hmmmmmm. I had a corner suite and where else in Biloxi do you have a 49" TV? I pushed a button and all the shades closed, perfect to watch PTI before bed. I'm not seeing a difference in walking length to the tables, HR vs Beau vs SP. But the parking does suck, need to use valet. Could compare that to the filthy garage at The Beau, that I put up with. You got me with orange juice, which is poison to me. Rather take a bath in an orange grove, which is what you do with Tarocco bath products!
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January 25th, 2016 at 11:08:55 PM permalink
Corner suite on 18th floor or diff floor ?- I was in their penthouse suite and the bed was so close to the window that they had to put the tv on a table lower then the bed and off to the right so impossible to lay in back and watch tv. The keirig was nice but most of the higher end suites suites usually come with this- in fact the platinum tower suites at hard rock - the ones on the first floor with the balcony overlooking the pool have these- unfortunately the suites at hard rock in the older tower have Bose wave radios which they did not install in the new tower.
I just felt the pearl had a lack of
A) spa
B) food
C) pool
D) parking

Did have a good selection of video poker but I felt the casino was poorly laid out and there was absolutely ZERO TO do there not even a real gift shop
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January 25th, 2016 at 11:17:33 PM permalink
I see your points, I was in a smaller suite. Just there for the craps, a friend that works there, and to say hello to many old faces dealing. Don't do pool or spa, that old tree was great for take out food. But as far as location goes, Hard Rock is the center of the casino universe, for Biloxi.
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January 25th, 2016 at 11:21:22 PM permalink
Yea to play and sleep it may not be bad.... But locals don't need rooms and I can't imagine a single out of Towner on vacation wanting to stay somewhere with nothing to do and no reautuNts that are anything special
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January 27th, 2016 at 9:06:17 PM permalink
Picked up my mail today - they have upped the ante. January $205 in direct bets. February went to $500 weekly. Arrive Sunday and cash in Sunday, then Monday. Such a deal!
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February 12th, 2016 at 5:13:38 AM permalink
We made an effort to get there during construction and with the girders and such in place you could see that without some additional demolition of houses and residential stuff, etc., there was going to be a parking problem. Understand that now as the smoke is clearing from the opening that parking is being planned and instituted in a more reasonable fashion.

Last time there was in a bus to IP and it was only visible in passing on the bus and across the bay from the IP.

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February 12th, 2016 at 6:43:09 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Picked up my mail today - they have upped the ante. January $205 in direct bets. February went to $500 weekly. Arrive Sunday and cash in Sunday, then Monday. Such a deal!



Care to guess what your coin in was when you were there to earn that?

Thus far, I haven't spent much time there because I seem to win before the first 30 minutes are up. No sense giving it back, so I leave. Just trying to gauge if the free play is rewarded at a higher rate than the IP, for example.
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February 12th, 2016 at 10:04:53 AM permalink
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Care to guess what your coin in was when you were there to earn that?



The business model seems to be hugh rewards for early life of the casino, to hook you. Golden Nugget did the same a few years ago. My buy ins have been $500 at craps or MS stud, so nothing spectacular.
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February 22nd, 2016 at 5:46:53 PM permalink
http://dmckee.lvablog.com/?p=17761

First numbers are in and Scarlet Pearl is raising Gulf Coast gambling to highest levels in 8 years.
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March 2nd, 2016 at 6:26:29 AM permalink
Wasn't sure where to put this - maybe a Mod knows a better place.

After reading through the first few pages of Dancer's book on VP, it seems that promotions have a lot to do with incentivizing play for the AP.

This looked like a good one at Scarlet Pearl for this upcoming month.

TABLE GAMES HOT SEAT
Fridays & Saturdays In March | 6 – 11PM
One winner will receive $100 Direct Bet every half hour. If you are sitting at the winner’s table, you will receive a $25 Direct Bet.
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March 2nd, 2016 at 7:45:09 AM permalink
Quote: ukaserex

Wasn't sure where to put this - maybe a Mod knows a better place.

After reading through the first few pages of Dancer's book on VP, it seems that promotions have a lot to do with incentivizing play for the AP.

This looked like a good one at Scarlet Pearl for this upcoming month.

TABLE GAMES HOT SEAT
Fridays & Saturdays In March | 6 – 11PM
One winner will receive $100 Direct Bet every half hour. If you are sitting at the winner’s table, you will receive a $25 Direct Bet.

TBH That's VERY slim pickings. Adding it to your mail offers probably makes it worthwhile.

Yes very few AP plays consist of beating the actual game itself.

There's a few exceptions like Full pay video poker some were up to 3%. Slot & VP Progressives, bonus slots and VP. The bulk of income comes from marketing and slot clubs nowadays.

progressives can be just as lucrative as promotions sometimes even better depending on the situation.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 2nd, 2016 at 9:35:53 AM permalink
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TBH That's VERY slim pickings. Adding it to your mail offers probably makes it worthwhile.

Yes very few AP plays consist of beating the actual game itself.

There's a few exceptions like Full pay video poker some were up to 3%. Slot & VP Progressives, bonus slots and VP. The bulk of income comes from marketing and slot clubs nowadays.

progressives can be just as lucrative as promotions sometimes even better depending on the situation.

Please PM me the IP addresses for those slut clubs. I will not sell the addresses, I promise ;-)

<edit> SLOT clubs, not slut clubs, my spell checker thinks it knows me, jeez.
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March 2nd, 2016 at 3:38:20 PM permalink
The direct bet offers at the Pearl are insane. My offers, despite only being a $100 craps bettor, have risen from $205 weekly to $500 in February, and now $800 weekly in March. So arrive Sunday, play also on Monday, first day of week offer to get both weeks offers in 2 days. Takes care of RFB plus transportation. Sweet!
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March 2nd, 2016 at 4:08:05 PM permalink
Offers are ok but it's really only worth half that
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