MrV
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May 18th, 2017 at 9:52:25 PM permalink
Quote: RossH

rap concerts tend to be violent. Even in the areas around the arenas tend to be the worst. I worked in the DA's office in LA, and 95% of the cases I handled regarding rap concerts happened after the show in the immediate area of the venue. (i.e. roads leading to the venue and bus stops next to the venue)



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May 19th, 2017 at 5:13:17 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

I would appreciate the warning, but I avoid all of North Jersey all the time to avoid the rap areas lol. But, it is a valid concern, many concerts lead to rowdiness, but large rap concerts have historically been linked to shooting and gang conflicts, its just a reality.



It's also reality that anybody considering this a valid concern when a nearby rap concert is about one ten millionth as dangerous to casino patrons as the act of driving to the casino, is a in the grips of hysterical, racist fear.

It would be far more rational to warn of a light drizzle or a single pothole.

Probably also spends a lot of time cowering over terrorism. A nice way to go through life.
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May 19th, 2017 at 7:38:44 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

It's also reality that anybody considering this a valid concern when a nearby rap concert is about one ten millionth as dangerous to casino patrons as the act of driving to the casino, is a in the grips of hysterical, racist fear.

Assuming a 125 mile (NYC to AC) drive to the casino, the odds of dying in a traffic accident are about 1 in 1 million in New Jersey. (Source. You have to drill down to find the 2015 NJ statistics of Fatalities per 100 Million Vehicle Miles, which is 0.75)

I could not find any "Rap Concert" fatality data, but let's make the assumption that in a given year, one person is killed from violence after a concert. I think that would be an accurate, if not conservative estimate. Now, let's assume 100 rap concerts in a year in NJ with an average attendance of 10,000 people. Using these assumptions, there would be a 1 in 1 million chance of dying due to concert related violence.

So, using what I consider to be conservative estimates, it seems that the two are about equally likely.
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May 19th, 2017 at 8:48:36 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Assuming a 125 mile (NYC to AC) drive to the casino, the odds of dying in a traffic accident are about 1 in 1 million in New Jersey. (Source. You have to drill down to find the 2015 NJ statistics of Fatalities per 100 Million Vehicle Miles, which is 0.75)

I could not find any "Rap Concert" fatality data, but let's make the assumption that in a given year, one person is killed from violence after a concert. I think that would be an accurate, if not conservative estimate. Now, let's assume 100 rap concerts in a year in NJ with an average attendance of 10,000 people. Using these assumptions, there would be a 1 in 1 million chance of dying due to concert related violence.

So, using what I consider to be conservative estimates, it seems that the two are about equally likely.



Sure. But what if I happen to be driving near the "people" who attended the concert? I've done that twice and in 95% of those two times I'm pretty sure I almost died.
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May 19th, 2017 at 9:07:40 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Sure. But what if I happen to be driving near the "people" who attended the concert? I've done that twice and in 95% of those two times I'm pretty sure I almost died.

Sounds about right. Whew, you were very lucky -- that's only a 0.25% chance of surviving both times! ;)

I've never been to AC, but I think my biggest concern for this or any event in the area is that it would drive more traffic to the casinos, making the table minimums higher, spots at tables harder to get, etc.

I wonder what the mortality rate for playing beyond one's bankroll is. Probably about the same as the other two scenarios.
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May 19th, 2017 at 9:09:17 AM permalink
Shoot.
"Those people" have killed me on more than one occasion.
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May 19th, 2017 at 9:13:51 AM permalink
Be afraid.

Be very afraid.

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rdw4potus
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May 19th, 2017 at 9:52:59 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Sounds about right. Whew, you were very lucky -- that's only a 0.25% chance of surviving both times! ;)

I've never been to AC, but I think my biggest concern for this or any event in the area is that it would drive more traffic to the casinos, making the table minimums higher, spots at tables harder to get, etc.

I wonder what the mortality rate for playing beyond one's bankroll is. Probably about the same as the other two scenarios.



Yeah, table minimums go up, room rates go up, wait-times at restaurants and for drink service go up.

Study duration would matter, but I think people who play beyond their means probably kill themselves more than 1:1MM times. So busting the bankroll is probably the most dangerous of these things.
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billryan
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May 19th, 2017 at 10:48:09 AM permalink
Speeders Paradox
The more time you spend on an interstate, the more likely you are to be involved in an accident.
The faster you go, the less time you will spend on the interstate, but the faster you travel, the more likely it is you will be involved in an accident. Therefore, the car driving slower will avoid accidents caused by speeding yet is exposed to more potential accidents by being on the interstate longer.
Throw a rap concert into the equation and all hell breaks loose.
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May 19th, 2017 at 11:24:43 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

... I've done that twice and in 95% of those two times ...

This must be a new type of Algebra. Are there any math experts here that can explain that?
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