billryan
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April 5th, 2017 at 3:51:43 PM permalink
My family went on vacation to Ac a few times in the 1960s. The Boardwalk was great and there were a few great junk/trash/rummage type shops a block or so off the main streets. Had a great time. About eight years later, in 1976, my friends and I went to Wildwood and stopped by AC on the way home. Almost the entire Boardwalk was deserted and when we got back to our car there were several older black men who said we owed them $5 for watching our car. I started to argue and suddenly another half dozen appeared. I settled for $3 and left.
The casinos certainly changed that. Boardwalk was thriving and a number of businesses boomed. In the late 90s, AC was a great place to be. I spent the summer of 99 sharing a house in Margate and must have spent close to a hundred days in AC that year. When the Borgota opened, it really hurt the Boardwalk, and the stupid closing of the Sands killed the town. People might not realize it, but when they closed the Sands, they also shut down two of the busiest bars in AC, a place where dealers drank and socialized. After that, many employees just went home instead of hanging out after their shifts. Things were never the same.
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WatchMeWin
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April 5th, 2017 at 4:13:01 PM permalink
It wouldn't surprise me if they bring in Mark Brown to run the casino. He was the former CEO of Trump properties, then went to Macau LVS, then Wynn Vegas, and now in Saipan I think. But he is from AC and it would be a perfect fit. Can I get a fee if someone from HardRock reads this and goes out and hires him? ha
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LuckyPhow
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April 5th, 2017 at 6:39:55 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak



Quote: Wizardofnothing

Until you realize that hard rock gives table games players no match play and no comps Fml


On the bright side, maybe better comps from competitor casinos to keep your business?

I'd imagine they'll be stingy with comps in the beginning anyway, I think it'll be pretty packed in the beginning. I hope they do a good job on renovations, the Taj Mahal theme looks like garbage.



gamerfreak, wazzup?? I went looking for the WizOfNothing quote in your email, but cannot locate it in this thread. Mighty hard to respond to a non-existent post, don'cher know? So, please share from where it originated?

As for Hard Rock comps in AC, I have no idea. But, the Biloxi Hard Rock is quite generous in its own way. I cannot eat all the food it offers me, and its buffet is very good IMHO. For my play (as a bottom-feeder) I get reasonable room comps. (They kick me out after 1 night, but we're working on that.) Hard Rock has free (no points required) give-aways several times a week (but, they do expect some reasonable play or else you may not receive the offers going forward). I play lotsa table games there.

I dunno if WizOfNothing was naughty at Hard Rock, or what. Seeing the original email might have been helpful. Based on my experience, Hard Rock in Biloxi gives players a reasonably good gaming experience. Mileage may vary for those playing in Atlantic City.
gamerfreak
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April 5th, 2017 at 7:22:28 PM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Quote: gamerfreak




On the bright side, maybe better comps from competitor casinos to keep your business?

I'd imagine they'll be stingy with comps in the beginning anyway, I think it'll be pretty packed in the beginning. I hope they do a good job on renovations, the Taj Mahal theme looks like garbage.



gamerfreak, wazzup?? I went looking for the WizOfNothing quote in your email, but cannot locate it in this thread. Mighty hard to respond to a non-existent post, don'cher know? So, please share from where it originated?

As for Hard Rock comps in AC, I have no idea. But, the Biloxi Hard Rock is quite generous in its own way. I cannot eat all the food it offers me, and its buffet is very good IMHO. For my play (as a bottom-feeder) I get reasonable room comps. (They kick me out after 1 night, but we're working on that.) Hard Rock has free (no points required) give-aways several times a week (but, they do expect some reasonable play or else you may not receive the offers going forward). I play lotsa table games there.

I dunno if WizOfNothing was naughty at Hard Rock, or what. Seeing the original email might have been helpful. Based on my experience, Hard Rock in Biloxi gives players a reasonably good gaming experience. Mileage may vary for those playing in Atlantic City.


Not sure about any emails, but the post I quoted is on the first page of this thread, 3rd from the top.
onenickelmiracle
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April 5th, 2017 at 9:58:13 PM permalink
This is happening then, not just talk. Has anyone pounded a hammer yet? That's when you know it's real.
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
LuckyPhow
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April 6th, 2017 at 5:02:31 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Quote: LuckyPhow

Quote: gamerfreak

the post I quoted is on the first page of this thread, 3rd from the top.



Dunno how I missed it. Please pardon my Senior Moment.
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DiscreteMaths2
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April 6th, 2017 at 1:02:09 PM permalink
"Wall displays throughout the property will pay tribute to local musicians and artists. For musically inclined guests, Hard Rock's Sound of Your Stay program will allow them to check out a Fender guitar to jam out with from the comfort of their room."

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/04/06/hard-rock-unveils-plans-for-atlantic-city-casino-hotel.html

Is this standard at other Hard Rock properties ? I never heard of that offer. I would shred the hell out of any electric fender with a little portable amp setup in my hotel room.
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LuckyPhow
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April 6th, 2017 at 4:02:36 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

Hard Rock's Sound of Your Stay program will allow them to check out a Fender guitar to jam out with from the comfort of their room. Is this standard at other Hard Rock properties ? I never heard of that offer.


DM,

I dunno the details (since I don't play), but if my foggy memory hasn't let me down, I believe Hard Rock Biloxi has this program also. Hey, Jimmy Buffet came from right "next door" to Biloxi, right?

But, there might be some rules, don'cher know. Like, if your playing keeps me up, I can bring my 6-pack to your room so we can all party.
100xOdds
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May 10th, 2017 at 11:12:58 AM permalink
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2017/05/09/trump-taj-mahal-casino-sale-price-hard-rock-icahn.html

Icahn described the March 1 sale as "the optimal outcome" for Icahn Enterprises, but the sale amount was not made known at the time.

Documents filed in late March with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, however, show Icahn Enterprise agreed to sell the former casino resort for $50 million, or about 5 percent of what it cost to construct.

The property, constructed by real estate mogul and now president Donald J. Trump, cost more than$1 billion to build.

This isn't the first Atlantic City property that cost over $1 billion to sell for pennies on the dollar. The $2.4 billion Revel, which closed in 2014, sold for about $82 million, or about 3.4 percent of what it cost to build.

Hard Rock, Atlantic City and state officials in April this year announced the $375 million changes planned to turn the empty Boardwalk property into Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City, which includes moving Hard Rock Café Atlantic City to a new 400-seat venue that includes beach access.


so Hard Rock is going to spend $50m + $375m = $425m.
Would it have been cheaper/better just to build from scratch?
and a better location, say, the other end of the Boardwalk near the Trop? or even the Marina near Borgata?
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