jerrysnj
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November 6th, 2016 at 6:13:17 PM permalink
The politicians are already working to come up with a way to go against the will of the people if it's voted down by exploring using VLTs instead of slot machines saying a lottery is not gambling.
BleedingChipsSlowly
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November 7th, 2016 at 3:36:57 AM permalink
Quote: jerrysnj

... a lottery is not gambling.

Of course not! It's an entirely different game of random chance with the house heavily favored. ;-) I will be voting on a similar gambling expansion bill for Massachusetts. It seems states are rushing to reach a saturation point for gaming and assuming first establishment is a critical advantage.
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November 7th, 2016 at 4:03:03 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I live in Northern NJ, about 15 miles from the Meadowlands. For what it's worth, I'm kinda on the fence on this. I'd love having a casino so close, while I also fear that I'd become a total degen.

I'm voting No for a different reason.

The resolution specifies that the new casinos must be at least 72 miles from Atlantic City. It seems to me that if the Meadowlands Racetrack should be a contender for a casino, then Monmouth Racetrack should also be a contender. After all, both already are gambling facilities. Except Monmouth is only 69 miles from AC. That smells like political bullshit to me, so I vote NO.


I kinda doubt this.

In 2013, a new grandstand on the other side of the track was built, and opened in November. The old grandstand, a stone's throw from MetLife Stadium, was used in some capacity during the SuperBowl. It still stands. As far as I know, it's unused.

It wouldn't take much to throw up a coat of paint and some carpeting to get this facility ready for use as a temporary location while the fancy casino is being built. But why put any effort or money into it before the resolution passes? Besides, even if it passes, there's still a lot of time consuming red tape to take care of.



wow that sure does smell rotten. I wonder where they came up with the number 72? Say they make it 65, is there another one at 59 that would then cry foul? If there are a much of places then it could be a first one out like in the NCAA tournament that always has someone upset.
DJTeddyBear
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November 7th, 2016 at 5:35:23 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

wow that sure does smell rotten. I wonder where they came up with the number 72? Say they make it 65, is there another one at 59 that would then cry foul? If there are a much of places then it could be a first one out like in the NCAA tournament that always has someone upset.

Actually, there ARE two other horse tracks in NJ. One is the Atlantic City track, so that doesn't matter. The other is Freehold. About 64 miles from AC, and 12 miles from Monmouth. However, Both Freehold and Monmouth are in Monmouth County, and the proposal limits the new casinos to one per county. So only one of them would qualify.

Frankly, I forgot that there was also a track in Freehold.
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November 7th, 2016 at 7:30:08 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I live in Northern NJ, about 15 miles from the Meadowlands. For what it's worth, I'm kinda on the fence on this. I'd love having a casino so close, while I also fear that I'd become a total degen.

I'm voting No for a different reason.

The resolution specifies that the new casinos must be at least 72 miles from Atlantic City. It seems to me that if the Meadowlands Racetrack should be a contender for a casino, then Monmouth Racetrack should also be a contender. After all, both already are gambling facilities. Except Monmouth is only 69 miles from AC. That smells like political bullshit to me, so I vote NO.


I kinda doubt this.

In 2013, a new grandstand on the other side of the track was built, and opened in November. The old grandstand, a stone's throw from MetLife Stadium, was used in some capacity during the SuperBowl. It still stands. As far as I know, it's unused.

It wouldn't take much to throw up a coat of paint and some carpeting to get this facility ready for use as a temporary location while the fancy casino is being built. But why put any effort or money into it before the resolution passes? Besides, even if it passes, there's still a lot of time consuming red tape to take care of.



I agree with everything you said.

Atlantic City is a 75 mile drive to the south and the Meadowlands is a 75 miles drive to the north. I'm stuck in the middle.

Monmouth Park is only a 10 mile drive from my home and it was purposely omitted from this proposal because according to my sample Sample Ballot,Each casino is to be located in a town that is at least 72 miles from Atlantic City. To me they are saying "screw you Central NJ, we're putting a casino in North Jersey.

For that reason, I am voting NO!
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November 7th, 2016 at 10:43:52 AM permalink
Sands@Bethleham loves what's-for-me-Jersey Guys who want to vote down North Jersey casinos.

If North Jersey Casinos fail to come true, then Sands will continue to get at least 50 buses a day from NYC...full of cash cows. Those cows can be redirected to Meadowlands Casino if you guys think harder for the better good of NJ.
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dave12038457
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November 13th, 2016 at 8:29:54 AM permalink
While it may benefit N.J. as a whole, it certainly wouldn't help South Jersey and Atlantic City in particular.
Boz
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February 13th, 2017 at 5:41:06 PM permalink
Looks like he is not going to get open this weekend either. Big shock since it's Straub & no one knows of any actual employees being hired.

Yet UKStages still thinks Revel will make it.


http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/straub-still-lacks-city-permits-to-reopen-revel/article_656103e1-d356-5b6b-a1fe-471b705f8ce1.html
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February 13th, 2017 at 5:45:42 PM permalink
Maybe he named it, "TEN," because that is how many years it will take to reopen.
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gamerfreak
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April 6th, 2017 at 5:45:54 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Maybe he named it, "TEN," because that is how many years it will take to reopen.


How much does it cost to maintain a building of that size? I'd imagine it is well into the six-figures every month.

You'd think they would be a little more motivated to get this renovation wrapped up.

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