Low Stakes Games

Hi everyone, a long time ago I made a thread asking about low stakes AC blackjack and craps games, and got really helpful answers:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/other-casinos/11611-atlantic-city-best-stakes/

They were very helpful in helping me know where to go for my first visit to AC. My friends and I usually like to stay on the boardwalk, so we didn't go to Borgata, but we found $5 craps tables with 5x odds and $10 blackjack with dealer hitting on S17, no surrender quite abundant and they were more than good enough for us.

Now I have a couple of other questions, does anyone know if there are low stakes single deck blackjack and baccarat games, especially on the weekends? I never thought I'd play single deck blackjack in my life since the stakes are generally high, but last I visited I actually saw a $10 single deck blackjack game I think, but I couldn't play it since I hadn't memorized the strategy. Does anyone know where to find them? Also do $20 or less mini-baccarat games exist?

Lastly just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there are decent video poker games these days? I've found it hard to find 9/6 payouts on Jacks or better, and hard to find Deuces Wild games at all. Thanks!

I began my BJ career, playing low stakes blackjack for 6+ years in AC, but I have now been out of AC for 6 years, so I can't answer where the low limit games are, I'll leave that to someone more current.

But I do want to point out that any single deck low limit blackjack (or any single deck blackjack for that matter) will be 6:5, not the standard (or what should still be standard) 3:2. This means a $10 blackjack will win you $12, rather than $15. This increases the house advantage by more than 4 times from less than .5% up towards 2%.

Harrahs had one $10 single deck 3-2 table last time I was there in Feb.

Quote: MprtUSA516

Harrahs had one $10 single deck 3-2 table last time I was there in Feb.

Really!?

I can only imagine the "counter trap" that must be. :/

Even as a "counter trap" that's hard to believe, as the Empire was the one's who started the whole 6:5 experience.

If you want to play single deck, you have to go to Nevada. There's a few games in random parts of the country, but you're better off just going to Nevada. You got Reno, Wendover, 4 casinos in Las Vegas, etc.

Everything on the east coast is 8 deck, 6 deck of you're lucky, 2 deck no way, 1 deck haha r u srs?

Never play 6:5 blackjack, even if it's single deck.

Quote: kewlj

Really!?

I can only imagine the "counter trap" that must be. :/

Even as a "counter trap" that's hard to believe, as the Empire was the one's who started the whole 6:5 experience.

Half of Harrah's 8 deck games are 6:5. I've never seen the single deck there at 3:2. Taj has single deck and you guessed it - 6:5.

Quote: 1BB

Half of Harrah's 8 deck games are 6:5. I've never seen the single deck there at 3:2. Taj has single deck and you guessed it - 6:5.

I can't speak for recently, but in February they had one single deck pitch game paying 3-2. It started at $10 and went up to $15.

All the 8 deck $10 games were 6-5.

Thanks everyone, can I ask what's the lowest stakes you've seen 3-2 single deck blackjack at, where to find them, and what the rules are for these games?

Also does anyone have experience with mini-baccarat?

Hollywood just got rid of their double deck in high limit $50 min. Apparently the risk was "too high".

Quote: MprtUSA516

Harrahs had one $10 single deck 3-2 table last time I was there in Feb.

I'll have to echo Kewlj's response of Really?...I've been to Harrahs a hundred times in the last 2 or 3 years. They always have 1 or 2 SD tables but they've always payed 6:5. There is no 3:2 SD in AC anywhere, that I've seen in the last 12 years or so.

As for the OP's question about low limit. There are $10 games all over town at this point. But they all use 8deck and hit soft 17. Most of them pay 3:2 still, but if you are there on the weekend beware the party pits. They all pay 6:5. Not worth it unless the eye candy is really important to you. The most action for low limit is probably the Trop. Lots of $10 tables on the weekend. Harrah's has bunch too. Resorts, and the Taj have a few. Bally's and Caesars not as many. But it varies a lot based on day of the week and time of day. If you walk around you can usually find plenty of low limit games.

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I'll have to echo Kewlj's response of Really?...I've been to Harrahs a hundred times in the last 2 or 3 years. They always have 1 or 2 SD tables but they've always payed 6:5. There is no 3:2 SD in AC anywhere, that I've seen in the last 12 years or so.

As for the OP's question about low limit. There are $10 games all over town at this point. But they all use 8deck and hit soft 17. Most of them pay 3:2 still, but if you are there on the weekend beware the party pits. They all pay 6:5. Not worth it unless the eye candy is really important to you. The most action for low limit is probably the Trop. Lots of $10 tables on the weekend. Harrah's has bunch too. Resorts, and the Taj have a few. Bally's and Caesars not as many. But it varies a lot based on day of the week and time of day. If you walk around you can usually find plenty of low limit games.

There are three S17 tables at Resorts. They always start at $10 minimums and don't increase that often on weekdays. Many times I've seen them at $10 on a Saturday before the traffic increases. They are right across from the high limit pit. If you sat at one of them your back would be to the high limit pit.

I pay very close attention to the tables in AC. I have to because the poor games offered will not get me to sit unless I spot other opportunities. Eight deck, no surrender - no thanks! I'm confidant that I have never seen a 3 to 2 single deck game at Harrah's. Remember, this is the place with 6 to 5 eight deck games.

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There are three S17 tables at Resorts. They always start at $10 minimums and don't increase that often on weekdays. Many times I've seen them at $10 on a Saturday before the traffic increases. They are right across from the high limit pit. If you sat at one of them your back would be to the high limit pit.

I pay very close attention to the tables in AC. I have to because the poor games offered will not get me to sit unless I spot other opportunities. Eight deck, no surrender - no thanks! I'm confidant that I have never seen a 3 to 2 single deck game at Harrah's. Remember, this is the place with 6 to 5 eight deck games.

Ahh yes...Two things; I'm very familiar with the three S17 at resorts, but when I'm there...they are always $25. If they are lower limits sometimes it must be while I'm asleep :)

I'm glad you agree with me about Harrah's I've never seen that 3:2 SD game either, and you're right. They do have more 6:5 tables than most of the other places in town. Which are mostly in Party pits, or SD games.

Thanks everyone. I have gathered that single deck blackjack is basically impossible.

What about the best low stakes games with good rules? I know Borgata basically beats all, but on the boardwalk, which casinos give the best $10 S17 games with the best penetration, hopefully with surrender? And if it doesn't exist, the best $25 games? Thanks.

Does anyone have an update on $5 craps in A.C.? I'm pretty sure I saw it during daytime hours at Golden Nugget last year- but I'd like to know where to find a few games without having to look everywhere.

I haven't seen $5 craps in a while in AC. If there is any it's definitely daytime during the week. I think you can forget about weekends.

The poster that asked about S17 $10 games, I wish you luck; they're all going to be H17 at the $10 level I'm afraid.

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The poster that asked about S17 $10 games, I wish you luck; they're all going to be H17 at the $10 level I'm afraid.

Thanks, what about $25 S17? Where to find the best penetration for that? And can you surrender?

$25 S17 should be plentiful almost anywhere, anytime at any of the boardwalk casinos. Taj Mahal.. has a whole pit of S17 no mid-shoe entry, that are pretty generously cut. I've seen them cut out only a deck or so. It's right outside, but not in, the high-limit area...even during really slow times at least 3 or 4 of those tables are open. On the weekends there are a dozen or so active. Just look for a dealer cutting it thin.

Bally's has a 6 deck $25 S17 game with no mid-shoe. That's the best game on the boardwalk probably. There are only two or three of the 6 deck tables the rest are 8 deck like most of AC...it's clearly marked with a black sign that advertises 6-Deck. Also across from the high limit room.

Surrender in AC is as elusive as the white whale. You have to be a whale to get it, mostly. GN will sometimes do it on request but everyone at the table has to agree in advance, from what I hear. Also it helps it you are a black chip player. Aceofspades, I believe, would know more about surrender in AC. But the short answer to, is surrender available? is no.

Thanks a lot vendman1, you've been a great help.